Nikah for limited period

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Aslaam-u-alikum

brothers and sisters....

i'll keep it short....
Nikah with the intention of Talaq is not Valid....
becuase, Nikah is a source of "worship" and if ur just praying to leave it in the middle then Dearest (sister/brother) their is no niyah, and when there is no niyah there is no acception of the worship, and when there is no acception there is no validity, and where there is no validity there is no pint of Worshiping.

then Nikah is a Jaiz way of bonding 2 opposite sex people to fulfil each others needs, and in that all kind of needs are included: love, money, health, care, etc, and when there is an intention of leaving each other, then the bond is not built, there will not be love care etc.

thirdly Talaq is the only lawful ect which "ALLAH Hates" so if ur just bonding to break then i would say that you are bonding to hurt ALLAH...

So therefore Nikah with the Intention of Talaq is invalid

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thanx Icon. :blush:

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Female students from Malaysia usually practice mu’ta, not always for sex, I knew a girl how did mu’ta ‘without’ sex for sharing a house, transport etc. to reduce living cost with a male student but that was long before I don’t know now if it is still in practice among Malaysian students or not.

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Armuhgal, Boy Nice has been helpful enough to bring the relevant ahadith up again. If you could comment on them that would be helpful

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Can any sane person tell me, how on earth, a Sunni Reference book will quote a great (scholar/leader/Imam) like Hazrat Ali (RA) bad mouthing another Khalifa, i.e. Hazrat Umar (RA). What is more interesting, all thes quotes by my guppie brothers say "RA" in front of Hazrat Ali but not in front of Hazrat Umar. Doesn't it reflect their deep personal bias against Hazrat Umar (RA), and wud a Sunni book be reflecting that?
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i think we should ask how you can assume things without reading up on the source? perhaps you should actually read the sahih books, and you would find out a whole lot more. you'd be suprised about what the ashabs really thought of each other.

secondly, the RA prolly a personal addition and not likely to be in the books. Not that its relevant...but yeah..its not really a logical argument.

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that is true, in that ppl use it for when they are travelling, to cover mahram/ghair mahram issue. a women can also put a condition in the contract of no physical relationship, and the man has to abide by it. even if its to get to know someone for the purpose of a long term marraige, shari wise you are covered..whilst engagements do not.

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Imam Ja^far a-Sadiq said: "the Mut^ah is the actual Zina".
Meanings of this: The marriage contact that was based or conditioned on a limited time (hours, days..) is the actual act of adultery, therefore Mut^a' is a large sin and the one who is married properly and commits Mut^a will be stoned when there is a khalifah.

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Keping aside any of such fabrication attributed to Imam Jafar Sadiq [as] for the time being, for those people who consider Nikah al Mutah as Zina, and are keen to stone the performer and punish the one who deem it Halal, let us start counting the people who should be first ones to be stooned for the reason that they performed Nikah al-Mutah or they deemed it Halal. The list along with authentic sources is already mentioned in previous pages, so its just a recall:
1. Muawiyah bin Abi Sufiyan
2. Ibn Masud
3. Abu Saeed
4. Salma wa Majid
5. Umayya's son
6. Umar bin Harith,
7. Taus
8. Saeed bin Jabeer
9. Ata
10. Ibn Abbas
11. Ibn Jurayj
2.

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aslaam -u lakum wa rahmatullah wa barakahtahu
i pray that you are in the best of health and imaan. inshallah

forgive me if this topic isnt relevant here (you can delete and il jus post it as new topic)

the scenario is if two ppl get married. one of them realises that the other has married for wrong reasons and has no intentions of being married to this person and has got married for ulterior motive (i.e money, visa, revenge). is there way a of anulling the nikah afterwards?

advice would be appreciated

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^ ever heard of divorce????

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dnt be so patronising!:naraz:

im finding out whether the nikah would evan be valid. let say for example a registration in the uk can be annulled next day without diviorce.

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nice try guys...but sorry there is no such stupid thing allowed as temporary marriage in Islam.

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hey jal pari - i wasnt referring to a temporary marriage.
Only reason im asking is i knw somone(gori) from work who got married and then nex day she found out that he married her for some money that she had inherited. they hadnt consumated the marriage because he was soo drunk he fell asleep (thats gorah 4 ya)

i was looking at this from a islamic perspective? so if two muslims get married and realise that its under false pretence (and do not consumate the marriage)can they without divorce be annulled?

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I don't think women have this right in Islam. Its not a ruling just my thinking.

What if someone is happily married but his wife is unable to have kids. He doesn't want to divorce his 1st wife but he wants to take a second wife only to have kids.

then those who did it in time of Prophet s.a.w rnt muslims ? rite !

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very well said:k:

umm i think there is a part on the nikkah papers where it says whether u want the woman to have the right to ask for divorce, she can only sj for divorce if it is arranged in advance, do correct me if im wrong

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Dear Ones

I am really amaze to see the comment
"its a shiaa website, and shiaas always supported temporary marriages....
they say mut'ah is allowed, but go to any shiaa who says mut'aa is allowed and tell him that u want to marry his sister/daughter for 3 days and see what he does to u....
but he himself wud like to go and enjoy it with other women claiming Islam allows it...."
yaar Mutah is not for virgin girl it is basically for Divorce and Widowed. and kindly see the Suran Nisa Ayat 24 i hope u will translate and interpret it rite :) and if any one wana know tht who prohibited Muttah i can provide some hadith with reference and u can judge tht he who prohibited tht have such authority or not .
Take care
buddies

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:smack:

this thread.

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In my eyes and not only in my eyes, but also in Allah's this is forbidden. Any counterclaims? Please bring them here in. We can talk about them.

What a cruel belief actually this is. Shia support temporary marriages and Sunnis not? Someone mentioned Muhammad Mustafa (saw) "allowed" that, because some muslims couldn't live with this (peak) pressure, lol...

What belief is that? Temporary Marriage? Please don't call this Islam, this is a own faith, faith of those who can't wait for the cause of Allah!

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Rules
Nikahu l-Mut‘ah resembles a nikah (“permanent marriage”) in many, but not all, aspects. It commences in the same way as a Nikah except that for some, a date of expiration for the marriage is added to the marriage contract. The duration is decided by the couple involved. There are no restrictions about minimum and maximum duration. If the period is longer than what can be reasonably expected to be a lifetime, it will transform into a nikah.
During the period of the marriage, the couple are considered husband and wife, just as in a permanent marriage. At the expiration, the marriage is voided without undergoing a talaq “divorce”. In case of sexual intercourse, the woman must observe the iddah “waiting period” before she can marry anyone else. Nikahu l-Mut‘ah is considered mustahab (recommended) by the Shia.[3]](Nikah mut'ah - Wikipedia) The Shia also regard it as mustahab (recommended) to extend the marriage or to transform it into a permanent one.citation needed]

** Differences from permanent marriage**

Nikah Mut’a is a marriage with a pre-set time. It is important to note that different Marja “authorities” may give different fatwa “legal rulings” on some issues. Many of the following rules may be changed in the Islamic marriage contract.

  • The marriage is agreed upon to be voided after a pre-set time. This permits the couple to expect and prepare emotionally for the end of the marriage.
  • No divorce is necessary. In Shi‘a fiqh (“jurisprudence”), a divorce is viewed as a complex process involving mediators*citation needed*] and a period aimed at giving the couple the chance to reconcile. This is not necessary in Nikahu’l-Mut‘ah, since the marriage does not end due to disharmony but due to the preset time being reached.
  • The husband may void the Nikahu l-Mut‘ah earlier than agreed. If he does and they have had sexual intercourse, he must give her full mahr “bride price”. If they have not had intercourse, he must give her half that amount, though the recommended precaution is that he should give her full mahr. A distinction between a talaq “divorce” in a nikah and voiding a nikahu l-mut‘ah is made in a conversation reported in a hadith collection.[7]](Nikah mut'ah - Wikipedia).
  • The couple do not inherit from each other. Since the marriage is not permanent, the couple is not considered a single, merged unit.
  • The husband is financially responsible for any children resulting from the marriage. As it is believed that a woman should not be burdened with the responsibility of providing for a family, she is allowed to work and spend her money as she chooses.
  • The wife may leave her house against her husband’s will.
  • The husband need not pay for the wife’s expenses. This complements the above point.
  • It is permitted to marry a woman from Ahl al-Kitab “People of the Book” (followers of monotheistic religions). The difference in jurisprudence between different religions is overcome by this rule. It is understood that the Muslim Nikah does not have an equivalent form among the People of the Book. Therefore, women who are of the People of the Book are unaccustomed to the special rules of Nikah, for example, the husband’s responsibility for the wife’s expenses or the wife’s not leaving her house against the husband’s wishes. These difference in religious laws make it desirable to wait with the higher level of commitment that Nikah requires until they are overcome, in order to minimize potential friction in family life.
  • The wives are not counted toward the maximum of four. Since the husband is not required to support the wife, and the marriage is not permanent, the circumstances leading to the restriction of having no more than four wives does not apply. However, many Shi‘a scholars have ruled that one cannot take more than four temporary wives.
  • The Nikahu l-Mut‘ah can be used exclusively for the aim of having sex.[3]](Nikah mut'ah - Wikipedia)

** Similarities between Nikahu l-Mut‘ah and Nikah**

** Differences from “modern dating”**

Although nikah mut’ah is usually portrayed in the western media as a form of “Islamic dating”, there are a few differences between it and modern western dating, mainly:[11]](Nikah mut'ah - Wikipedia)

  • A woman is required to observe an iddah (waiting period) after their breakup, if they have consummated their relationship.
  • It is forbidden for women to “date” non-Muslims, and men are not permitted to “date” women of non-monotheistic religions.
  • The two parties must have a verbal consent, although some Shias believe that implicit consent is also acceptable.

Difference of opinion

This topic is controversial in the Muslim world. Twelver Shia deem it as a blessing revealed in the Qur’an intended to make everyday life easier, while Sunnis and other Shia condemn the practice, disputing its presence in the Qur’an, and adducing that Muhammad never prescribed it and he himself never practiced it.
Although this is the main fiqh difference between Twelver Shia and Sunnis, it is still merely a fiqh issue and not relevant to the core beliefs. The question is whether Muhammad or Umar abolished it, it does not define whether one is Shi’a or Sunni.
To see the hadith that Shi’a and Sunni use to support their arguments, see Hadiths related to Nikahu l-Mut‘ah.

Sunni view (allowed)

Sunnis can perform a type of marriage called misyar.citation needed] While Sunnis do not believe misyar is comparable to Nikah Mutah because the difference is that the Shi’a Mut’ah marriage is based on a contract with a fixed date of expiry. In contrast, the Sunni misyar marriage is marrying a woman who lives in foreign country often visited by the husband for prolonged periods of time and that the marriage is treated as a regular marriage so there is no specified date for the marriage to end.

Sunni view (forbidden)

Sunnis believe this type of marriage was practised before Islam and during the time of Muhammad. In the hadith below, Muhammad told Sahaba to “do it” since it was made acceptable. However, within the same Hadith, Muhammad clearly mentions that this form of marriage was to be banned.
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah and Salama bin Al-Akwa: While we were in an army, Allah’s Apostle came to us and said, “You have been allowed to do the Mut’a (marriage), so do it.” Salama bin Al-Akwa’ said: Allah’s Apostle’s said, “If a man and a woman agree (to marry temporarily), their marriage should last for three nights, and if they like to continue, they can do so; and if they want to separate, they can do so.” I do not know whether that was only for us or for all the people in general. Abu Abdullah (Al-Bukhari) said: 'Ali made it clear that the Prophet said, "The Mut’a marriage has been cancelled (made unlawful)."bukhari 062.052. But Sahih Muslim mentions some Sahaba benefited from this type of marriage during the time of both ‘Umar and Abu Bakr Muslim 3248. The reason for Mut’a is explained in sahih bukhari as only when it is very badly needed
Narrated Abu Jamra: I heard Ibn Abbas (giving a verdict) when he was asked about the Mut’a with the women, and he permitted it (Nikah-al-Mut’a). On that a freed slave of his said to him, “That is only when it is very badly needed and women are scarce.” On that, Ibn 'Abbas said, “Yes.” bukhari 062.051. Thus according to Sunni Scholars This type of marriage used to be allowed and then was banned permanently like many other banned things in Islam such as consuming of alcohol which was allowed in the beginning and banned later on in steps .To be easy on those who converted to Islam so they would not have to let go of everything the instant they became Muslims. And so dictates human nature that habits good or bad do not change over night.
It was banned by Muhammad at Khaibar along with eating of Donkey meatbukhari 059.527. another Hadith by a different Narrator is
The complete Hadith:
Narrated Muhammad bin 'Ali: 'Ali was told that Ibn 'Abbas did not see any harm in the Mut’a marriage. 'Ali said, "Allah’s Apostle forbade the Mut’a marriage on the Day of the battle of Khaibar and he forbade the eating of donkey’s meat."Some people said, “If one, by a tricky way, marries temporarily, his marriage is illegal.” Others said, “The marriage is valid but its condition is illegal.” bukhari 086.091
** Shi’a view**

According to Usuli Shia scholars Mut’a is a valid marriage. Muslims in countries that permit Nikahu’l-Mut‘ah, such as Iran, have varying views on this form of marriage, depending on how it is used. Some practices are viewed as being more legitimate, while others are viewed as irresponsible.citation needed]

** Qur’anic origin**

Some Muslims believe that this institution was established by God through Muhammad in the Qur’an. Its single mention in the Qur’an is verse 4:24.
The prominent Sunni exeges ibn Kathir states in his Tafsir:
Arabic: فَمَا اسْتَمْتَعْتُمْ بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَـَاتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً “Then give those of these women you have enjoyed the agreed dower” was revealed on the subject of the mut‘ah marriage. A mut‘ah marriage is a marriage that ends upon a predetermined date.Tafsir ibn Kathir Sunni site. The event of revelation was during the battle of Hunayn in 9 ah (631 CE) Muslim 3432.
Tabari in his Tafsir writes under this verse a hadith from Mujahid:
The phrase “Then give those of these women you have enjoyed the agreed dower” means the temporary marriage (nikahu l-mut‘ah).ref Sunni Scholars, however, say 4:24 does not permit temporary marriage. The refutation of this is the fact that prior to this Allah mentions the women whom a man is forbidden to marry, then he mentions what is permissible for him, and He commands the man to give to the woman he marries her mahr.- Shaykh Munnajjid (1) Shi’a scholars argue that is not relevant because the individual verse permits Istamta’tum by means of contract. The preceding and anteceding verses give the guidelines as to whom is permissible to marry. The full verse is:

  • (Shakir): “And all married women except those whom your right hands possess (this is) God’s ordinance to you, and lawful for you are (all women) besides those, provided that you seek (them) with your property, taking (them) in marriage not committing fornication. Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed; surely God is Knowing, Wise.”

The word “istamtaˤtum”

The phrase those whom you profit by, in Arabic istamtaˤtum bihi, has the same root as Mut‘ah, that is, MTĦ. The word is usually translated in its general meaning as “those whom ye seek content” or “they whom you have enjoyed”. If the word was translated as an Islamic term, the translation would be: “They with whom you have made Mutˤāħ”, or “They whom you have married for a fixed time”.
Tabari in his Tafsir al-Kabir under the verse 4:24 mentioned a Tafsir Qudsi:
Abu Nadhra said: Ibn Abbas recited the verse 4:24 with the addition of “to an appointed time”. I said to him: “I did not read it this way.” Ibn Abbas replied: “I swear by God, this is how God revealed it,” and Ibn Abbas repeated this statement three times." Al-Tha’labi in his Tafsir al-Kabir, under commentary of verse 4:24 narrated a similar tradition from Sa’id bin Jubayr. Tabari continued:
Abu Nadhra said: I asked Ibn Abbas about temporary marriage (Mutˤāħ of women). Ibn Abbās said: “Do you not read 'For whatever you enjoyed (Istamtaˤtum) them by the contract to an appointed time?” I said: “If I would have read it this way, I wouldn’t ask you (about temporary marriage)!” He replied: “Certainly the verse is about it.” Tabari continues to say that Ubay Ibn Ka’ab also knew that tafsir ref.

** Ujūrahunna**

The phrase “give them their dowries as appointed” is “bihi minhunna fātūhunna ujūrahunna farīdatan”. “'Ujūrahunna” is derived from ajr “compensation”/“payment”. This is in contrast to the verse on the subject of Nikah, verse 4:4. It states:

  • (Shakir): “And give women their dowries as a free gift…”

The word translated in 4:4 as “dowries” is “saduqātihinna”. It is not the same word as used in 4:24, although it is often translated as such. In fact, 4:4 refers to “dowries” while 4:24 refers to “compensation, payment”. Furthermore, 4:4 says “dowries as a free gift”, while 4:24 says “dowries as appointed”. However, this should only be taken as a difference between the Nikah vers of 4:4 and the Nikahu l-Mut‘ah verse of 4:24 and it does not constitute a proof that “ujūrahunna” refers to only Nikahu l-Mut‘ah, since the same word is used in verse 33:50 when referring to Nikah.

edit] “After what is appointed”

The section “and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed” refers to prolonging the marriage or making it permanent, something which is mustahab “recommended”. If this doesn’t occur, the wife must observe the Iddah, making it impossible for a woman to engage in a Nikahu l-Mut‘ah, and have sexual intercourse with more than six partners per year, assuming a menstruation cycle of 20 days.