The actual issue is that the Pats are 10-2, with an 8-game winning streak, a 6-0 record against teams with a winning record, and an 8 game overtime victory streak. Super Bowl XXXVI MVP Brady's 30-12 regular-season record (.714 winning percentage) is the best among active quarterbacks. They are currently ranked #1 or #2 in most Power Rankings. A team should be judged by their wins and it is obvious that is what everyone (oustide of the jealous whiners) acknowledges. For a true footbal fan the issue is not luck, breaks, officiating, etc.
Absolutely, fo r true Football fans issue is football not the breaks their mediocre team gets to advance in the play offs(see Pats).
Sheraz, you want me to believe something that was printed in clam chowder paper? You could not come up with something better than that. Even if I believe that, maybe we should ask Mike Pereira How come Dwayne Rudd of cleveland browns was flagged for similar penalty and the play resulted in First down for chiefs..at the end of the game.
Also, I told you before that there is a whole world out there Sheraz, look beyond the thick fog of Boston and you will learn something. *Dont quote some rag from your own area. *
Sheraz you are free not to reply to my post. You mean that you want to discuss thing with your won kind...who just agree with you. I have proved to you before that each big victory of your brady bunch is flawed, it is based on help from the refs...just accept it and live with it. Your guys are lucky nothing else.
Seminole, SB MVP was by default, performance of the rest of the players was so bad that they did not have a choice but to give it to an average player i.e. Tom Brady.
You guys really need to get out more. :D
why don't you find me anywhere that the ball should have gone back to the colts..if that was the case all the talk shows would be discussing it..joe thiesman was asked by dan patrick of ESPN, which is the best team in NFL and he said the patriots..he said they have the offence, they have the defence and they also have the special teams..he also said that they are far from 100% and they will only get better :D
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but Pereira said the officials had ``no recourse'' or any way to accurately judge if McGinest was really hurt.
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How true, Refs could not prove that he was faking which he was. If he was really hurt he would not have been able to come out flying on the last play. If i remember correctly he was holding his leg and could not get up...lame act and then he comes out and plays the next four downs as if nothing has happened...bunch of cheaters. What do you expect from a team who follows its lead from a man who has no integrity (Bill Jr and NY Jets saga).
why dont u cry bout it
patriots won the game..and all season our players have been playing hurt..thats why everyone thinks belichek or marvin lewis will win the coach of the year
I'll say it again - TRUE football fans do not whine about officiating, luck or breaks. I have friends and relatives that are DIE HARD and true Jets and Dolphin fans. They acknowledge how good the Patriots are right now and would never credit their success to anything other than good football. Detractors and whiners only show 1)bias 2)immaturity 3)jealousy or 4)lack of knowledge about the game and gamemanship.
Sheraz, why will I cry about it? I am merely pointing out the cheats, smoke and mirrors your beloved team employs to win games :D that;s all.
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I'll say it again - TRUE football fans do not whine about officiating, luck or breaks. I have friends and relatives that are DIE HARD and true Jets and Dolphin fans. They acknowledge how good the Patriots are right now and would never credit their success to anything other than good football. Detractors and whiners only show 1)bias 2)immaturity 3)jealousy or 4)lack of knowledge about the game and gamemanship.
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Seminole, I can cite similar examples where people feel that Pats are bunch of cheats and win games due to the refs calls. This argument of yours is not going to work. I challenge you to come up with a big game victory of Pats that was not aided by the refs? Untill you do that keep your relatives, freinds ideas to yourself.
Bias:- You are showing bias by not admitting that pats have been aided and continue to get help from the refs...either its coincidence or intentional does not matter.
Immaturity: I am not sure what you are trying to say here, maybe you can add some mature response here to clarify your position.
Jealous: Please why will I be jealous of cheats, who are led by a man who has no integrity...not to mention their owner who got into a pissy match with Jets over Parcells and in turn Bill Jr.
lack of knowledge? I just told you about the play of number 50...I watch the game and have as much if not more knowledge of the game than you do. Lack of gamemanship... I am not sure its a word, but lets move on...Why dont you teach that to Pats and tell them to keep their helmet on next time they make a play...becasue they are paid to do that i.e make plays. Also, maybe you will like to look in the mirror and admit that there is a certain factor of luck and breaks that enable pats to reach this record. If they are such a good team, how come they were not able to do the same last year with essentaily the same team?
Ok, I retract my 1, 2, 3 or 4 as choices for your reasons for beating up on the Patriots. My new response is 1, 2, 3, AND 4.
Bias - it works the same as it does in politcal and world affairs. Not giving credit where credit is due, only harping on the same ol' tired points that stem from personal views and not facts.
Jealousy - when someone beats your team and proves to be the Beast of the East and the force to be reckoned with in the AFC it must make you feel badly? I don't know. Maybe because it is a good looking gora that is proving to be THE clutch quarterback of his era that gets your goat? I can't venture to guess.
Immaturity - when someone only talks about the negatives and only criticizes others constantly I see it as a sign of immaturity. A mature person will acknowledge the good and not make every post confrontational and antagonistic.
True and knowledgable fans - (see immaturity) I do acknowledge that luck (both good and bad) has played a role in their record as it does in all teams and games. But real fans know that the wins and statistics (that I will not repost) prove the Patriots are more than just a lucky team that catches all the breaks. Real fans aren't sore losers either. They acknowledge good football when they see it.
Semi-mole next time you look in the mirror ...or better yet just look at all of your posts regarding Muslims, islam and you will see that you perfectly fit the criteria you described. I am not going to waste my time on you. Good luck to you and Brady bunch.
BTW: I think the best player NFL ever saw is Montana...I guess your gora racist comment is out the window. Maybe you cannot stand the thought of a black QB touted as MVP...traditionaly role reserved for "goras" as you described. Where did you even get that idea> Oh wait a minute yes you can because you yourself are a racist...that is why. So go drink a glass of water and check your neck, I bet its red. You are a racist person who has always been confrontational in all the posts. When you dont have facts to back your argument you show your true colors .
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Maybe because it is a good looking gora that is proving to be THE clutch quarterback of his era that gets your goat?
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Seminole, Its very courageous of yo to "COME OUT". I knew you were gay. I will send this link to Brady to let him know that he has an admirer. :D
Can't you discuss anything intelligently without spouting such self righteous indignation? I thought this was a thread to discuss the NFL, not yet another forum for you to judge and insult others. Does everything you discuss have to be so emotional and void of logic and facts? I hope you are indeed not going to waste any more of your presious time with me as I will not be wasting any more valuable cyber space addresing your arrogant posts. But since you added a BTW and additional insulting post after your assertion, I fear the worst.
OK, Sminole, if you had gone through the thread and read my posts, you would have seen that I have said that Pats are a good team. More importantly, its just a game man. I only pick sides to have some fun. You are the one who came in with all self righteous crap of jealousy and what not. You made it personal, I did not. I only replied in kind. So if you want to continue discussing NFL fine, lets do it, but if you make it persoanl dont expect me to back down. Kapeesh.
My picks for playoffs:
AFC
East – Patriots
North – Ravens
South – Colts
West – Chiefs
Wild Card – Dolphins, Titans
NFC
East – Eagles
North – Vikings
South – Panthers
West – Rams
Wild Card – Seahawks, Cowboys
Super Bowl - Patriots over Rams
Here are my picks..slightly different from seminole but close.
AFC
East- Patriots
North-Bengals
South- Titans
West- Chiefs
Wild Card- Dolphins, Colts
NFC
East – Eagles
North – Green Bay
South – Panthers
West – Rams
Wild Card – Seahawks, Cowboys
Super Bowl
Titans Over Rams
Still 4 weeks to go, so its kind of early for prediction but here is mine
AFC
East - New England Patriots
North - Baltimore Ravens
South - Tennesse Titans
West - Kansas City Chiefs
Wild Card - Indianapolis Colts, Cincinnati Bengals
NFC
East - Dallas Cowboys
North - Green Bay Packers
South - Carolina Panthers
West - St Louis Rams
Wild Card - Philadelphia Eagles, Minnesota Vikings
Superbowl
Kansas City Chiefs over Philedelphia Eagles
49ers suck. Garcia's gotta go. Cut the fool and try to concentrate on signing Julian Peterson and Terrell Owens if possible. Julian Peterson is a must.
As for your guys talk, the team that is going to win the big show is gonna be the Indiana Colts. If Denver hadn't lost it's linebackers then they would be a solid pick also. I don't see anyone from the NFC winning the super bowl.
greetings from karachi
first thing i asked my family when i talked to them..yup u got it..the patriots won again..titans lost at home..bunch of losers i tell ya :D
so who is the best team in NFL now mista kaleem
Sheraz, enjoy your time in Pak...especially Karachi. You are too obsessed about the Titans man. This tells me they got to you. Of course you did not see the game that is why you call them a losers. What kind of a life do you have that when you go to Pak first thing you ask is about NFL ? Wow.....pathetic really if you ask me. :D
The Titans played respectfully and could have won if they hadn't fumbeled 4 times. McNair was a warrior playing hurt. The Colts played well but will need to score more touchdowns when in the red zone to advance in the playoffs.
The Patriots quieted some of the critics with their dominant win against the Dolphins. In shutting down Miami they improved to 7-0 against teams with winning records. They are now 6-0 at home and own the best record in the AFC. If I were a playoff team, I'd hate to to travel to Foxboro this winter. Defense wins championships and the Pats are dominating.