to be fair though, one can say hey its his family and not him, u know.
family operated as a group i.e. there was no division of asset between brothers. corporate structure in place is designed to avoid taxes. also there is no way these entities would get any money without nawaz shareef using political clout.
ahhhh, okay thanks for clarifying, so he was part of the whole scam then.
calling their operations a scam would be misleading. what the shareef's and other connected people were doing in the 90's was plain and simple robbery. since banks were govt owned, no loan officer had the balls to decline a loan application approved by pm office. btw, saifur rehman, who was running ehtasab bureau for nawaz shareef defaulted on loans granted by ubl. when the loan officer, who was a shareef aadmi, tried to get saifur rehman to pay up, govt threw the loan officer in jail.
situation of banks got so dire by late 90's that govt had to inject around Rs20bn to keep them solvent. in contrast, market cap of banks listed on kse is around $25-30bn dollars these days. banking sector is perhaps the shining example to turn around under musharraf.
oh really, that must be breaking news, you should pass this on to geo so they can telecast it
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Aren't you the one who cried about some other project being stopped by CJ which was to affect mangrooves?
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how does a project affect mangroves when its a mile away from it?
and what does chopping thousands of trees down on a hill for a project have with a building a project near a mangroves?
I don’t have the blue-print of the plan which was blocked by court so can’t say who is right or wrong but what you told me was that court stopped the project because it was gonna destroy mangroves.
after geos propaganda i am not gona belive a word geo or jung say.
do you have any other source for this case or was it just printed by jung,
its suprising how they say that its been happening for the last 2 years but only caught there attention now,
yes and i also provided you the plan of the project where the bundal island was clean with no mangroves and it was the other islands with the mangroves.
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now mr.double standards is calling me double standards
now do you understand why i call you mr.double standards, youve just proved it with that comment :hehe::hehe::hehe:
Errr, okay… propaganda. and we should believe all YOUR provided allegations against CJ? Nice.
You provided me with the plan??? When and where did that happen?
I showed your double standard when you said you changed your mind about Imran Khan when he made a “U-turn” but you didn’t change your mind about Musharraf for so-many U-turns he has made… we call that double standard, may be you have different dictionary.
Errr, okay... propaganda. and we should believe all YOUR provided allegations against CJ? Nice..
if its true then please like i said show me more sources, if it happened it would have been reported in atleast another reputed newspaper, such a big case can not be just reported in one paper if it was real
and why are you bring the cj into this, grow up and stop being a child.
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You provided me with the plan??? When and where did that happen?.
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yes i gave you the whole map which i posted in the thread off skyscrapercity.com
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I showed your double standard when you said you changed your mind about Imran Khan when he made a "U-turn" but you didn't change your mind about Musharraf for so-many U-turns he has made.... we call that double standard, may be you have different dictionary.
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and why are you bring the cj into this, grow up and stop being a child.
To prove the very same point you are raising i.e. no other newspaper is covering it. So all the allegations you have brought up against ex-CJ are not discussed in any news article (I've not seen any and you have not provided any links).
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please enlighten me on the u turns of musharraf.
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Are you serious? Benazir and Nawaz Sharif are the BIGGEST u-turn anyone can actually SEE.
To prove the very same point you are raising i.e. no other newspaper is covering it. So all the allegations you have brought up against ex-CJ are not discussed in any news article (I've not seen any and you have not provided any links)..
ok so you admit its fake, so why you reporting it here in the first place?
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Are you serious? Benazir and Nawaz Sharif are the BIGGEST u-turn anyone can actually SEE.
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how is it a u-turn?
do you even understand anything, bibi and ns are finished they can not serve another term as pm.
ok so you admit its fake, so why you reporting it here in the first place?
I am not admitting it is fake, it is reported in atleast one news paper... your allegations aren't reported in a single newspaper, now decide for yourself who is fake.
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how is it a u-turn?
do you even understand anything, bibi and ns are finished they can not serve another term as pm.
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U-turn: 1. When he came to power he had announced accountability, he started it... now reversed the accountability by NRO.
2. After he came to power he said that he won't these 2 back, just few weeks ago he tried to negotiate power deal with Benazir so he will get elected if/when Benazir comes to power. Read the articles which tell that Musharraf is willing to work power-deal with Benazir if she stopped being confrontational etc.
well actully cj cases were reported, i remember reading about his sons cases sometime in feburary and him pressing charges on the media for covering it.
and you go along and belive every word the media says, every child by now knows the deal with bb was nothing but media generated, he is a presidant and must talk with leading partys of the country, speaking to them does not mean there is a deal, that is all media speculations.
like rebel x said this is nawaz thread, first you make excuses and show double standards now you are derailing threads is well, common dude whats up wth you.
Let me re-iterate, I am looking for the cases where CJ blocked construction projects to the tune of billions of dollars that you have mentioned many times now, a link to some newspaper/article, thank you.
Yes NRO was issued in dream, Benazir and Nawaz Sharif are not back in Pakistan despite their convictions.
He can always move the related posts to the exCJ allegations/resume threads if he has problems, I am sure any other mod will do that too.
This guy Nawaz is so stupid, so stupid. First he signed the agreement with ban for 10 years, because he says he was assured by a general that it will be changed to 5 years. As stupid as that was, Nawaz went ahead and told this story to the whole nation on national TV. How stupid was that, for a person hoping to become the next PM. On the scale of 1 to 10, the guy is sparkling at 13*, on my chart of all time morons.