Re: Nawaz Sharif… Not such a big failure after all!!!
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
I dont know how but all of us know what every government has done wrong...How Pakistan should be runand whats in Pakistan's best interest and whats not. Despite having this wealth of wisdom and knowledge and prudence we keep leting this circus to carry on destroying the very fundamentals of our nation. We know whats wrong we know how to fix it then why dont we the people do anything about it or is the bottom line that we all wait for our turn for our chance to keep crying foul but when get a chance do exactly the same as those before us have done.
Why cant we start something of our own why cant we use all this knowledge to mend our nation's ways. Why not whats stopping us if the problems and solutions are that obvious then by not doing anything are we not equally guilty as those who have looted us ??????
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
grassroots political movements from well intentioned outsiders i.e. not from the political circles and families are doomed from the get go. Look at Imran khan, public figure, well known, fairly respected, but has he ben able to really make much of an impact.
This has to be a grassroots movement, chane will only come when people rise up against it, but the general apathy in pakistan is evident. Maybe people feel that they dont count or whatever they do will not matter.
I have written numerous letters to the last 2 adminstrations and asking them to pass a law that anyone under investigations and indicted for corruption can not run for office until the investigations are concluded, and anyone who is proven guilty is banned from politics. I dont get responses :)
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
why would they ban their own future? :CareBear:
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
hahahaha true.
then the question is aside from a street revolution, billi kay galay mein ghanti kon bandhay ga
Re: Nawaz Sharif… Not such a big failure after all!!!
The great irony of Pakistan… Problem is though, that while we know whats wrong, those who are calling the shots have vested intrests which they put ahead of the best intrest of the country. And without true democracy, it impossible to have an impact on the way these people run the country.
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
Burki is an economic liberal, like most he tends to spit venom whenever he hears the word Bhutto ..something which clouds his judgement as a balanced historian.
Sharifs economic liberalisation programme was quite unbalanced, but it was the first real breakthrough since the 1960's ..but it also continued Zias lopsided development of favouring crony capitalists from Punjab and to a lesser extent NWFP over even growth all over.
Still those who criticise Burki for his agenda should remember people like Shaukat aziz were advising Pakistani governments in the late 90's..and the present close friend of Musharraf and senate chairman Mian Soomro was a Nawaz Sharif appointee..
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
This is possible if a dictator wants to, Mushy had a chance but he brought in the same corrupt machinery as was before him so he threw the chance out the window. He can still push it, just like the Hudood ordinance, but the question is if thats even on his agenda? Is he really sincere?
Re: Nawaz Sharif… Not such a big failure after all!!!
All he has said of Bhutto is that his privitization program was the begining of Pakistans major economic woes, and he isnt the only one who feels this way…
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
I disagree guys..........If this was the case then i assure you that this cycle will never be broken.
So basically what we want is to wake up one morning to a Pakistan where our political leaders have had an overnight transformation.
I do agree with what you say about the masses.......but then if the masses have not stood up against anyone then it means that things are not as bad as we are making them look like otherwise they would stand up against the atrocities or we have to define what we mean by 'Masses'.......wait ..we are the masses.... but we are too busy sorting our own lives out that we have no time to give to our country. Frankly we dont have the will. Its our national passtime to have the brightest of ideas but when it comes to matching actions with words then the overwhelming reaction is ' O what can we do..its the political leadership..what can one man do' ........... and please do not think that i am directing this to anyone in particular....I consider myself to be top of this list of high talkers with great ideas and no ambition to match my words.
But i sure think its high time that we either drop this barrage of attacks on others or we role our sleevs up and do what we all very very well know needs to be done and only that will give us the true right to criticise anyone.
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
We are all running in circles.............if we leave it to people with vested interests then there will never be true democracy. For as long as we keep saying someone has to fix it this problem is not going to go away. we cant keep waiting for a someone to come from heavens and show us the right path
Also what is true democracy.......Personally i am not a big fan of the democracy as it stands in today's world as it only seems to serve the interest of the powerful .I think its too close to the capitalistic model. I am not one for a socialistic or communist model but i think we need a model which is less capital in nature. We need to define our own path our own destiny
Re: Nawaz Sharif… Not such a big failure after all!!!
sorry captain, but if such a ban was made by military regime, as soon as that ends, that law would be repealed by the chamchas of the ppl who would otherwise be affected.
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
Thats what I tried to suggest in earlier threads that a modification to constitution plus a chokidar institute which would make sure that government doesn't take up all powers... i.e. setup govt accountability, which may include people from opposition, govt, military, judiciary.
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
a strong judiciary basically..
Re: Nawaz Sharif... Not such a big failure after all!?!?!
^ a strong and independent judiciary. Currently Judiciary is under govt influence, it needs to be independent of any influence. Also, there must be representation from other institutions as well so they don't cry about some issues i.e. military.
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Well, you are right and I agree with you. But if you compare his mistakes with others - you won't be even able to compile that long list.
I agree, Imran Khan is a loud mouth and that is why among everyone else in Pakistan, he is my second choice. We are not that lucky - our choice list has nothing in it. So as compare to others, I'll prefer him.
As for present govt, plz don't go for world economic reports. Ofcourse they'll write this stuff - they want the same govt in Pakistan for another decade or so. And the reasons for it are very obvious. Do we need to go in the details...?
Check for yourself. Just 1 example - our one of the strongest industry, Textile has been in troubles for a few years now. What exactly has been done to resolve it. The factories/industries have been closed down due to different reasons - how come world reports are showing the opposite...?
as far as economic reform, opportunities etc, Shaukat aziz did more in one year tan nawaz did in all his years. refer to international economic reports to confirm what they thought of nawaz's reforms versus shaukat aziz's.
Imran khan is good as a loudmouth, good athelete, decent captain, so-so sportsman, but when it comes to politics aside from saying the same few points again and again he has not done anything. I ask him and all other parties, what is their platform, what is their plan, etc etc.
zero zilch..
Re: Nawaz Sharif… Not such a big failure after all!!!
Interesting article. Thank you for posting.
but how does one defend the 79 ruppee tax return he filed while president?
My uncle is a federal tax court judge. He oversaw the prosecution of 52 people from NAWAZ ZALEELS LAHORI niebourhood and family members that “borrowed” literally billions of rupees from Pakistans treasury, with zero interest and no intention of paying it back?
If one looks at his personal life, and compares them to his actions, then tries to come up with an answer as to what kind of a leader he was for pakistan, then that person would become extremely confused.
What little and mediocre difference he made was in Lahore, it seems. Even there, a few roads here and there, and a couple of revamped buildings, etc etc.
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Well, you are right and I agree with you. But if you compare his mistakes with others - you won't be even able to compile that long list.
oh yeah compared to BB nawaz is a saint.
*I agree, Imran Khan is a loud mouth and that is why among everyone else in Pakistan, he is my second choice. We are not that lucky - our choice list has nothing in it. So as compare to others, I'll prefer him. *
I would not mind having Imran as a PM, he has integrity if nothing else, and integrity is critical, but where is the plan, where is your policy, what will you do when u come into power. there is no plan..
*As for present govt, plz don't go for world economic reports. Ofcourse they'll write this stuff - *
they were writing this stuff pre 9/11 when tehy had no real stake. and its not just major institutions like world bank, but every report on the policies and progress has been positive.
*they want the same govt in Pakistan for another decade or so. And the reasons for it are very obvious. Do we need to go in the details...? *
I mean if conspiracy theories is what we are going to get into, then the reports for every govt have been tailored, so why such a big.
It is not as easy to make up GDP, trade and
*Check for yourself. Just 1 example - our one of the strongest industry, Textile has been in troubles for a few years now. *
indeed..
What exactly has been done to resolve it. The factories/industries have been closed down due to different reasons - how come world reports are showing the opposite...?
consolidation, smaller players being squeezed out, higher competition from other countries all play a role here. Yet again, if we start doubting every indicator and report then we only have our own biases, pereceptions and word on the street to go by, and that is not very accurate.
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dammit, you can't get a good argument here.