Namaz and Nailpolish

[Pareezay]

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Yes but shouldn't we read what those who have read, memorized and understood the religion say about such matters? I am no scholar myself but I don't blindly follow everything. This however, makes sense. I myself would love to wear nail polish all the time but I don't try to find loopholes just to justify it. I turn to an Imam or a scholar for help when I have a question about an issue. Since I do not have enough knowledge, I feel it is better to seek advice from someone reliable who would be able to guide me. It is not about closing your eyes and following everything people say. It is the same thing as a school or university- we are taught by teachers and professors who have more knowledge and experience and one can always learn so much from them.

Sis, nail polish is but one aspect of looking good. This is precisely what I question, you jusyt read a link and it becomes your Iman. We should know our principles good enough to weigh any opinion against it. To understand the principles, it needs thought and time with your thoughts.

[Pareezay]

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@Niksik

I think that what SHay and I were saying was not that women should not wear nailpolish or grow their nails long, but the fact that they argue about what is accurate in an effort to justify themselves.

:k:

[Niksik]

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Shay, I agree that we should always consult experts to understand religious matters. In fact someone like me may be swayed by cultural rituals and justify them as being Islamic acts.

[pinks]

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@USResident

Sis, if you read your first paragraph carefully, you are saying it coats the nail and prevents water from cleansing it. If it is already coated with something that is not najas then what is the water supposed to cleanse. The nail is not dirty to begin with if it is coated with something that is already keeping it from contact with other things. Its much similar to the masala of doing masah over khufuf. IMHO if you put nail polish after wudu then the nails are still clean under the nail polish.

Yes, I agree women argue to prove themselves and so do men. They only argue when they lack the principle understanding on an issue and have little to no choice to cling to what they have been iterated as correct.

It was good of you to guide your daughter towards the truth.

same goes for our face, hair, arms & feet… usually there’s nothing “dirty” on 'em but we still do wudhu before prayers/ when needed.

[ummm]

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[Pareezay]

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^yep, silly us. this thread doesn't pertains to you.

[Niksik]

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Brother Ummm, you don't always have to agree or disagree. When something doesn't make sense, it's doesn't mean it is incorrect.

However, this is an open forum and all discussions are welcome. It would be nice if we could all control our emotions and language because sometimes we say things that could be hurtful or, misrepresent who we actually are.

[ummm]

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I didn't mean to hurt anyone, but.... come ooonnnnn, what does it matter if u miss ONE prayer?

[wannabe_a_mum]

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As for those that say it doesn't say in the Quraan that you can't wear nail varnish, or that you can't have acrylic nails etc and perform valid wuduu or ghusl................... Maybe it doesn't reference this specifically because such things were not found in those days - they are a modern conception!

As for what does it matter if you miss one namaz? Unintentionally missing it - Allah SWT will know. Intentionally missing it Allah SWT will know and let you know one way or another

Remember - only Allah knows whats best, and whats best for us

[Pareezay]

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@Niksik

Shay, I agree that we should always consult experts to understand religious matters. In fact someone like me may be swayed by cultural rituals and justify them as being Islamic acts.

You're 100 percent right- In our desi culture, we grow up being influenced by alot of things that are not Islamic but we have to do them. One such issue that I wrote about before was how I see a couple nikkahed and forget sleeping in the same room, they are not even allowed to go out or be alone by themselves. Why? Because it is considered 'besharam' since the Rukhsati isn't done yet. There is no such concept of rukhsati or mangni in Islam, it's only Nikkah but again, that's how our culture works.

[Pareezay]

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You know, my parents were always very strict about namaz but even then I felt like I lacked that understanding of how important salaat exactly was. Until one day when my aunt who had come back from Hajj was telling me that there's no maafi for missing namaz intentionally. I mean it is SO important that you have to do it even while laying down if you're sick and if your condition is worse, then you have to do it through ishara. I think that pretty much sums up how important namaz is for each of us.

As for those that say it doesn't say in the Quraan that you can't wear nail varnish, or that you can't have acrylic nails etc and perform valid wuduu or ghusl................... Maybe it doesn't reference this specifically because such things were not found in those days - they are a modern conception!

As for what does it matter if you miss one namaz? Unintentionally missing it - Allah SWT will know. Intentionally missing it Allah SWT will know and let you know one way or another

Remember - only Allah knows whats best, and whats best for us

[USResident]

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@pinks

same goes for our face, hair, arms & feet… usually there’s nothing “dirty” on 'em but we still do wudhu before prayers/ when needed.

I don’t think you understood what I meant to say. I was refering to the reasoning given that unless it touches bare skin or nails it is not Wudu. IMHO I think even if you did Wudu over nail polish, it is not such a big issue or one at all provided the nail polish was put on after doing Wudu. If people think Wudu is fine with Henna then nail polish falls in the same category for all intents and purposes.

[pinks]

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^ yes i agree to the extent that applying nail polish After wudhu and praying is fine… but in the event that the wudhu needs to be repeated, then the nail polish has to be removed. Nail polish is not permeable to water, henna is (it stains the skin, doesn’t cover it).

An extract from a question I found on Islamqa:

*One of the conditions of tahaarah (purification) being valid is that the water must touch the skin. If there is any barrier such as grease, paint, wax or glue that prevents water reaching the skin, then the tahaarah is not valid and prayers offered in that case are not valid.

The evidence for that is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him): “If you find water, then let it touch your skin, for that is good.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (332); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

Imam al-Shaafa’i (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If there is on him any mastic or anything thick that will prevent the water from reaching the skin, his washing of that part for wudoo’ is not valid, unless he removes it or removes enough so that he knows that there is no barrier to the water touching the skin. End quote.

Al-Umm (1/44).

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If there is wax, dough, henna and the like on one of his limbs, which prevents water from reaching any part of it, then his tahaarah is not valid, whether the amount is large or small. If there are traces of henna and its colour left on the hand, without there being any solid material left, or elsewhere, or traces of liquid grease whereby water flows over the limb but does not stay there, his tahaarah is valid. End quote.

Al-Majmoo’ (1/529).

It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (5/218):

If the colour is impermeable, then wudoo’ is not valid unless it is removed before doing wudoo’. If it is not impermeable, then wudoo’ is valid, as is the case with henna. End quote.

http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=103738&ln=eng&txt=nail%20polish

[mufakkar]

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@pinks

^ yes i agree to the extent that applying nail polish After wudhu and praying is fine… but in the event that the wudhu needs to be repeated, then the nail polish has to be removed. Nail polish is not permeable to water, henna is (it stains the skin, doesn’t cover it).

An extract from a question I found on Islamqa:

*One of the conditions of tahaarah (purification) being valid is that the water must touch the skin. If there is any barrier such as grease, paint, wax or glue that prevents water reaching the skin, then the tahaarah is not valid and prayers offered in that case are not valid.

The evidence for that is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him): “If you find water, then let it touch your skin, for that is good.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (332); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

Imam al-Shaafa’i (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If there is on him any mastic or anything thick that will prevent the water from reaching the skin, his washing of that part for wudoo’ is not valid, unless he removes it or removes enough so that he knows that there is no barrier to the water touching the skin. End quote.

Al-Umm (1/44).

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If there is wax, dough, henna and the like on one of his limbs, which prevents water from reaching any part of it, then his tahaarah is not valid, whether the amount is large or small. If there are traces of henna and its colour left on the hand, without there being any solid material left, or elsewhere, or traces of liquid grease whereby water flows over the limb but does not stay there, his tahaarah is valid. End quote.

Al-Majmoo’ (1/529).

It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (5/218):

If the colour is impermeable, then wudoo’ is not valid unless it is removed before doing wudoo’. If it is not impermeable, then wudoo’ is valid, as is the case with henna. End quote.

http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=103738&ln=eng&txt=nail%20polish

The reference given above is talking about Water touching the skin and doesen’t mention anything about nails. Besides, nails have a natural cuticle on them that repels water, so one cannot “wet” nails unless they are dipped in water for 5–10 minutes.

[kali_billi]

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i know this problem sisters i go through it everyday

cuz i wear nailpolish when i go out and surely i have to pray when im out too

so ofcourse i pray with nailpolish

so i just have to tell u one thing that putting nailpolish on after u have performed the wudu doesnt waste the wudu nor makes it “makrooh”

as long as u have performed the wudu putting any kind of make up after that is ok

but if ur wudu gets wasted by any reason so ofcourse u have to remove the polish and perform the wudu again

and for perfume it is for men women r not allowed to put any kind of scent when a non-mahram can smell it.

[kali_billi]

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The reference given above is talking about Water touching the skin and doesen't mention anything about nails. Besides, nails have a natural cuticle on them that repels water, so one cannot "wet" nails unless they are dipped in water for 5--10 minutes.

its not about water getting into the nails or seep into the nails its about water washing the nails

so can water wash the nails when they r coated with polish????

[kali_billi]

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I don't think you understood what I meant to say. I was refering to the reasoning given that unless it touches bare skin or nails it is not Wudu. IMHO I think even if you did Wudu over nail polish, it is not such a big issue or one at all provided the nail polish was put on after doing Wudu. If people think Wudu is fine with Henna then nail polish falls in the same category for all intents and purposes.

well henna and nailpolish cant fall in same category

henna dies ur nails it means that it colours the nails doesnt coat the surface it just seeps into skin and nail and colours it

and nailpolish coats the nails surface

its putting the color on ur hair the actuall stinky haircolour wen its coating the hair and after u wash it the material s gone just the color is left

[Raatkirani]

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@shay9164

I see girls/aunties all around me praying at Jummah, reciting at Quran khaanis with those long, fake nails on a regular basis. One of the girls even started an argument with the Imam at our Mosque saying nailpolish/fake nails don’t make the wudu invalid. While some continue to pray with such ignorance, there are many who get the nails done and do not even bother about praying.

Why has it become so easy for us to miss our namaz and not even feel bad about it? Why is it so convenient for girls to adjust Islam and it’s teachings according to what suits their daily lives?

Shay, sorry to be so witchy, but that’s really interesting that you should be so judgemental about others when you yourself are the same one who put pictures of herself in a sleeveless sari up in the Weddings forum. You’re just as guilty of “adjusting Islam” for your own convenience. Like they say, those in glass houses…

As far as nail polish goes, it was never forbidden explicitly in the Quran or Hadith (obviously). Some say the it’s best not to wear it. Others say the polish temporarily becomes part of the nail, so as long as the nail was clean before application, it’s okay. There are a lot of exceptions granted when it comes to wudu. A lot of people feel it’s okay to simply wipe their hands over their socks instead of washing their feet when they are out in public and have to do wudu, and many scholars have backed that up. Women back in the the early days of Islam often wore their hair in tight cornrows or braids and it was allowed for them not undo their complicated styles when they had to do ghusl, despite the fact that thoroughly washing the hair is a component of the ritual bath. Those without water can do tayummum with sand. So before you go and damn all those women who like to polish their nails, give them the benefit of the doubt first.

You also mentioned something about Islam, culture and Nikah. Nikah means you are legally married in the eyes of God, but even in Islam, you are supposed to respect your cultural mores as well. So while you won’t get gunah for being intimate with you Nikahfied spouse, it is better to wait until rukhsati. Even the Prophet SA was “married” to Ayesha RA for years before her rukhsati.

[psyah]

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@ummm

I didn't mean to hurt anyone, but.... come ooonnnnn, what does it matter if u miss ONE prayer?

Auzdubillahi minAshaitanirajeem ... the whispers ... oh those whispers!

[desigirl786]

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**Guys, whether we wear nailpolish or not, whether we are allowed to miss only ONE namaz or not, whether we can pray with or without makeup, those are all besides the point.

Allah has said to obey and follow him.The more we question and ponder over these things, the more arguments will arise. In Islam, we are told not too think too much or to worry too much about small things such as nailpolish. Yes it is an important question, but the fact remains that as Muslims we must do what Allah (SWT) has guided us to do. We as humans, as mere creations of Allah (SWT) are in no position or authority to question him in any way at all!

Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) said as long as you follow the Sunnah and the Quran, then you will never go astray. Despite those explicit words, many Muslims still don't find peace or tranquility in their lives because of the fine line between Islam and culture. (I am guilty of this myself).
Islam also says if you feel like your doing something wrong and it pricks your conscious, then it most likely is haraam.

So ladies, if you feel as if wearing nailpolish is haraam, then don't do it! If you feel there is nothing wrong with it and Allah will forgive you, etc then by all means go ahead..after all it is YOU and only YOU that has to answer Allah (SWT) in the hereafter.

Just make sure you really mean what you follow because Allah knows what's truly in our hearts.
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