Re: Muslims in Malegaon Burning Pakistan’s Flag
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Havent the Mumabi blast accused been identified ? 
SIMI is definitely a Muslim organization.
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Accounts of survivors/investigators wouldn't be propaganda, would it?
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^Its not about accused in that case i can accuse our PM also Mr. Manmohan singh but its the evidence. I dont support those guys but before pointing fingers let them get the evidence.
Let the whole situation be in Black and White. Coz this takes place and fade away with time, like the Delhi Bombblast, the public should be informed and not in some corner of the news paper.
But once the evidence is proved hang that guy and please no respite. Anyone who kills innocents should be hanged.
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involving pakistan in this tragedy its foolishness.i dont know about indian muslim that they all r uneducated and supporting indian hindus media .They never support outside muslim from india.Again they are in the same way that pakistan is involve in this tragedy .plz go and check ur indian news paper in urdu (Siyasat and Inqalab )these paper one columinst mention that before this thing happen in malegeon they ask police protection measn more force for safety from mulsim community but Govt didnt provide the force.hew days back One of RSS leader was arrested and from his house police found muslim topi and beared and other muslim stuff .After getting these things ppolice and indian Govt stopped investigation even they didnt disclosed this things in media.So this is the hinuds and indian Govt doing and blaming pakistan .
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I dont think it is right to point fingers at any group - Hindu/Muslim/Indian/Pakistani unless the investigation results are out. 
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^ Now you understand what I mean thats the truth dont point fingers at any group. Its out of the horses mouth now. Yes always wait for investigation results, which are always opaque and hidden. You cant deny this.
Well said Raza106
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hindu extremist violence is very open...they attack muslims by doing typical goonda things or rioting in the streets.
since when do they perform shadowy and secretive bombing operations using hi-tech explosives?
that style of attack is not only a mismatch for hindutva goondas, but a perfect match for another group...
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Do I just have to take your word for it :) or can you substantiate it ?
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Flag-burning could be the work of RAW...
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Yes Hindu extremist violence is better than the “other group’s” violence… Hindu extremists only set people on fire…
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Unfortunately, the way things work in India is that we try & set right wrongs that were done centuries ago. The whole reservations for backward classes is an example of that policy.
True :)
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who said anything about “better”?
i am talking about whether or not the crime fits the profile.
if the news was “muslim shops attacked and rioting in the streets kills XYZ people” then that would fit the profile of hindu extremists…but like i said, conducting a shadowy secret bombing operation is not their style.
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Well said !!
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Shuk ka koi hull nahi hay , if the whole world says its not PAKISTAN , Indians will always say its PAKISTAN , so no use on arguing over this topic as no one can change Indias point of view/thinking.
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heheh.. I think just coz of Pakistanz history right ??? :shoaby:
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Well said !!
Quote: Originally Posted by Navtech narayan, indian muslims are not pro-indians.. they are **indians* and we do not require any proof for that....*
I did not say pro Indians, I said pro India,[Read it in context of the thread topic]
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Giving superior rights to someone just because he belongs to the minority community is appeasement. And the Indian govt has done this with Muslims and backward classes. Sikhs/Christians/Parsis/jains/Buddhists are also a minority - why dont they have special rights ? And what about the majority Hindus ??
94.9 per cent of Muslims in Below Poverty Line (BPL) families in rural areas do not receive free foodgrains.
• While only 3.2 per cent of Muslims get subsidised loans, just 1.9 per cent of the community benefit from the Antyodaya Anna Yojana Scheme, a programme meant to prevent starvation among the poorest of poor by providing food grains at a subsidised rate.
• 60.2 per cent of Muslims do not have any land in rural areas. National average: 43%
• Just 2.1 per cent of Muslim farmers have tractors. With 15,25,000 tractors, India ranks No.4 after US, Japan and Italy
• A mere 1 per cent own handpumps.
• On the educational front, the picture is equally dismal: 54.6 per cent Muslims in villages and 60 per cent in urban areas have never attended schools. National average: 40.8 per cent in rural areas and 19.9 per cent in urban areas.
• Only 0.8 per cent of Muslims in rural areas are graduates. • Although in urban areas, nearly 40 per cent of the Muslims now receive modern education, only 3.1 per cent of the community in urban areas are graduates. Just 1.2 per cent are post-graduates.
And some people deny the oppression of Muslims in India when the facts are clear.
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• While only 3.2 per cent of Muslims get subsidised loans, just 1.9 per cent of the community benefit from the Antyodaya Anna Yojana Scheme, a programme meant to prevent starvation among the poorest of poor by providing food grains at a subsidised rate. • 60.2 per cent of Muslims do not have any land in rural areas. National average: 43% • Just 2.1 per cent of Muslim farmers have tractors. With 15,25,000 tractors, India ranks No.4 after US, Japan and Italy • A mere 1 per cent own handpumps. • On the educational front, the picture is equally dismal: 54.6 per cent Muslims in villages and 60 per cent in urban areas have never attended schools. National average: 40.8 per cent in rural areas and 19.9 per cent in urban areas. • Only 0.8 per cent of Muslims in rural areas are graduates. • Although in urban areas, nearly 40 per cent of the Muslims now receive modern education, only 3.1 per cent of the community in urban areas are graduates. Just 1.2 per cent are post-graduates.
And some people deny the oppression of Muslims in India when the facts are clear.
source please . and even if it is true.. who is stopping them. They can riot and there is organisation when there is rioting. But why not the simi and other group do some social work and educate the muslim janata. Govt cannot do everything. look at other minorities, the christians, sikhs and jains. Their educational and standard of living would be as par to any hindu or even better.So there should be something inherently wrong with the Muslim society itself and their conflict with modern world.This is for the educational part. Other things like tractor and other stuff about loans i think there should be national average to be taken care of. How many muslims does farming. Treditionaly they are not into it. Mostly are weavers, fishermen or Kasai(i mean the poor people). And many of their problems is faced by the millions including hindus.
Side note..i think it also has to be historic. During the creation of pakistan majority of rich muslims in indian side might have gone to pakistan and the poor remained in india.That shows on the muslim brotherhood.:)
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Pakistanis involved in Malegaon blasts .................
MUMBAI: Barely two days after a delegation from Malegaon met PM Manmohan Singh in New Delhi demanding that the investigation into the Malegaon bomb blasts be handed over to CBI, Maharashtra director-general of police P S Pasricha on Monday claimed that the case had been solved.
The DGP said two Pakistani nationals had manufactured the improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and assembled the four bombs which killed 38 people and injured 297 others on September 8.
They are still to be arrested. Monday's press conference came as a surprise as there were neither any fresh arrests nor additional recovery of missing explosives.
A 27-member delegation from Malegaon had met senior leaders in New Delhi in batches and demanded that the investigation be given to CBI.
When asked about the development, Pasricha said, "I don't know if there are talks to transfer this case to CBI. Our case has been detected.
"The conspiracy was hatched in Malegaon on May 8 this year on the occasion of the wedding of Noor-ul-Huda, one of the accused. All eight persons arrested in this case are former SIMI members. The RDX was transported from Mumbai to Malegaon in the third week of July (after the 7/11 train bombings), and the bombs were made there."
September 8, the day the four bombs terrorised the textile town, happened to be Shab-e-Barat, an auspicious occasion for Muslims when they go to cemetery to offer prayers. Pasricha said while one of those arrested, Zahid Ali, planted the bomb at Mushawerat Chowk, Huda and his accomplice Raees Rajjab Ali planted bombs in the cemetery.
Two persons, Mohammed Ali and Asif Bashir Khan alias Junaid, transported 15 kg of RDX from Mumbai to Malegaon and hid it in the godown of another accused, Shabbir Masiullah.
The accused used 1.5 to 2 kg of RDX to make the four bombs. The remaining quantity of RDX is still to be traced," police sources said.
Pasricha added that two Pakistani nationals, including one Muzammil, had come to Malegaon and made the bombs. However, he did not mention Pakistan or ISI's involvement in the blasts case.
The DGP said just because someone operated from Pakistan didn't necessarily mean Pakistan was involved