moreover she raised the point that Allah knows best, so if a muslim woman and non-muslim man go ahead, marry, and have children, where do those children come from? Allah blesses the couple with those children, does He not?
Non-muslim couples have children too...I don't understand the point...
even more so when you've married someone who's not. doing that doesn't nullify your faith or your belief or diminish it, and believing that it does is a very close-minded view, is it not? perhaps marrying someone from another culture is one way of showing them the path to Islam? in the end, its an extremely personal decision that each person must make for themselves.
It's not personal at all...often, be it man or women, it means choosing a prospective love interest over faith and community...and family.
The idea that inter-faith marriage, be it man or women, doesn't weaken faith is ludicrous. Either one is a pantheist, and (for example) simultaneously thinks Christ was indeed a Prophet and a son of God or one thinks their spouse's faith is bunk. Respect is not the same as practicing. I respect the fact that other people have beliefs, and I stay distant from them...and I respect people's emoting around faith issues. But that is in no way shape or form as saying that i respect their faith as the same as Islam...
Marrying outside of the faith is nothing less than putting a love for a man or women above the love of Islam.
^^ I completly agree.If you are marrying someone from a different religion and make excuses such as "Allah has destined us to meet" or "This is the way I can embrace Islam more" or "Now my partner can embrace Islam"..I think thats all ridiculous and is just a way of the person trying to justify that marrying a non-muslim is ok. It most definitely is putting love and desire for that partner over your Islamic faith and belief system.
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And what if they didn't? It's a crap shoot. Almost an arrogance on our part to expect them to convert anyway.
But I just don't understand the mentality...how can one marry outside the faith if they are serious about it on any level?
Don't get me wrong...I'm not so much concerned about the being "partially" practicing bit...aren't we all? It's just that to suggest one could be intimate with someone who does not truly hold the Quran to be a revelation from God, and the Prophet (pbuh) as the last and final messenger...I just don't get it. And never mind that...good luck trying to convince your kids that it's not okay to drink, date (heh...yeah, right), and so on when one of the parents could care less to impart those values or even contradicts them on a daily basis.
I have mixed experience...but one thing is for certain...if the muslim half of the couple isn't gung ho about their faith, the children end up abandoning faith in the traditional sense..."half Muslims", so to speak. And even if they are, it's often a major source of discord in the relationship...never mind when children arrive on the scene.
And this isn't to say that there are no Muslim kids who result from these unions...I just count that as a blessing...
As for the "let the kids decide" crowd...yeah right. That just screams "faith isn't important enough to pass on"...how many parents are okay with kids dropping out of school, or being anti-social? We push stuff on kids left right and center, because we want them to care about what we care about. One wants what is best for them, and if religion isn't a part of that equation, then clearly religion isn't important to that person...
Its *Zina *.............. now go and beat it ................. and if ya support such kind of marriages then you go againts ALLAH and his teachings .....
no point sugar coating it for making your friends happy .....
What about all those so called Muslims who are Muslims just for the name, if marrying a gora who belives in Allah is zina then marrying all those so called muslims should be zina too.
I am not twisting anything. If you don't like this debate, don't answer. I am just asking a genuine question.
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What about all those so called Muslims who are Muslims just for the name? If marrying a gora who belives in Allah is zina then marrying all those so called muslims should be zina too.
No, I am not trying to get the answer of my choice; I don't need the answer of my choice from a freaking online forum.
I know my answer and I really don't care what people think about it.
But it amazes me how hypocrites we are, a person who calls himself muslim while doing all wrong stuff is accepted by our society but a gora/non branded muslim who is living on the muslim standards and believes in Allah is not accepted....