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*Originally posted by #let uz chat#: *
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It is not permissible for a female to cut or trim her hair. However, trimming her hair to come out of Ihram from Umrah and Hajj is an exception to the general prohibition. (Shaami vol.6 pg.406; HM Saeed)
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Post the hadith that says this and I will believe!
786 SALAAM, brothers + sisters.
ive been told that women shud not cut their hair so short that you are unable to tell whether they are male or female, also a man shouldnt grow his hair so long that he looks like a female.
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*Originally posted by CurruptAngel: *
Post the hadith that says this and I will believe!
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==============================================for ur reference the hadith is in this thread scroll up and read and secondly i have pm'ed u with it believe me or not sister of islam the facts will remain unchanged.
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Hi, can you narrate the actual hadith in Bokhari? I did not find any hadith containing the words you posted.**
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#let uz chat# are you lost buddy? 
can anyone else locate this hadith in here:
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*Originally posted by #let uz chat#: *
It is not permissible for a female to cut or trim her hair. However, trimming her hair to come out of Ihram from Umrah and Hajj is an exception to the general prohibition. (Shaami vol.6 pg.406; HM Saeed)
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Is Shaami an authentic Hadith compilation??
You mentioned a Bokhari Hadith, but you did not quote it. I can not find it in there.
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*Originally posted by 786 SARAH: *
also a man shouldnt grow his hair so long that he looks like a female.
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By Anas ibn Malik "The hair of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) used to hang down to his shoulders."
(Bokhari, 7:790A)
The quotations in the threads written by myself are sufficient to understand the ruling being given/stated, whether one excepts it as "authentic" or not is a different question!!!!!
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where's the answer to my query???
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I can't find the hadith this guy has posted anywhere in Bukhari's Collection. He's spreading a false hadith!!
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*Originally posted by CurruptAngel: *
I can't find the hadith this guy has posted anywhere in Bukhari's Collection. He's spreading a false hadith!!
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The hadith does not exist in Bokhari. There is no hadith in Bokhari that even mentions anything about women cutting or trimming their hair.
refer to the webpage/s below. It has a complete discussion with
relevant hadith, etc:
ARE WOMEN ALLOWED TO CUT THEIR HAIR?
Allah Ta’ala created the Human being, individually perfect - with no stigma
of sin and in the best shape.
In Surah Teen Allah Ta’ala declares:
‘Indeed we have created human beings of the best stature.’(At-tin : 4)
Every part of the human body has been placed respectively to serve its
purpose. Some parts, organs and limbs play an important and vital role
whilst others have a minor supporting role. At the outset, looking at the
external human appearance its beauty is manifest immediately and, it’s at
this juncture that we are most grateful to Allah Ta’ala.
Consequently, we are not owners of ourselves i.e. we have been entrusted by
Allah Ta’ala with our physical body and internal self. Therefore, as this is
a Trust (Amaanat), it does not belong to us; and as a result, we have to
obey and respect its obligations. If the Maker requires us to fulfil a
certain requirement, e.g. to cover a portion of the body from the navel to
the knee in the case of men then that law is to be obeyed.
Similarly, a woman is required to keep and wear her hair without cutting it
short.
This latter issue will be highlighted in the following discourse.
Allah Ta’ala has concentrated the physical beauty of the human being in the
upper part of the body, i.e. the face. The face is probably the most
important feature in the whole external anatomy of the human being. In fact,
every effect and reaction becomes evident on the face instantly. Hence, the
face is the central part of the whole body exposed entirely and at all
times.
It is obvious that, what surrounds the face displays an important value and
forms a protective gear. Moreover, it displays the beauty and identity of a
person. Therefore, the long hair of the woman professes her beauty, the one
most powerful image of a female.
During Hajj/Umrah, in order to come out of the Ihraam, a man can either make
Halq (shave) or Qasr (trim) of the hair on the head. For a woman, she has to
clip the size of the small finger (approximately 2cm.)
From among the restriction imposed on her during Hajj is (as the text
appears in the Fiqh book, Al-Quduri).
‘She will not shave but trim’
‘Because Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu layhi Wasallam) forbade women from shaving
but commanded them to trim (the hair).’
The fact that women are only allowed to trim - a short length (2cm) and not
more - explains the issue under discussion.
Once the wife of Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu layhi Wasallam), Hadhrat Umme
Salamah (Radhiyallaahu Anha) asked him, ‘O Prophet of Allah, I am a woman
who keeps her hair closely plaited; should I unto it when I wash after
sexual defilement?’ ‘No’ he replied, ‘It is enough for you to throw three
handfuls over it (your head)’.
In another Hadith, Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu layhi Wasallam) replied to a
question saying, 'As regards man, he should undo the hair of his head and
wash it until the water reach the roots of the hair. But there is no harm if
the woman does not undo it (her hair) and pours three handful of water over
her head.
These traditions clearly indicate that women are allowed, in exceptional
cases, to throw water over their heads - which is not the real matter of
discussion here - but that:
a) the wife of Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu layhi Wasallam), Umme Salamah
(Radhiyallaahu nhaa) herself had long hair;
NOTE : The Noble Qur’an refers to them (wives) as the (Mothers of the
Believers)
b) no directive was given to cut, trim, clip, or shave the hair in order to
solve the problem ; and ,
c) in many such questions a similar answer was given.
In one of the most popular books of Fiqh (Islamic Jurisprudence) Hidaayah,
the text reads:
“It is not necessary for a woman to release her plaits when taking a bath,
if the water reaches the root of her hair.”
4) Sheikh Hafiz says in Fathul Qadeer :
"It is not permissible for men to imitate women in clothing and
beautification that are especially associated with women only (and vice
versa).
5) Hadith:
‘Ibn Abbas (Radhiyallaahu nhu) reported that Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu layhi
Wasallam) cursed the hermaphrodite from the men and the like from the
women.’
6) Hadith;
Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu layhi Wasallam) said : Glory (to Allah) who
beautified men by the beard and (similarly) women by their lock of hair.
(Takmela e Bahr Raiq vol. 3 p. 331)
7) By nature, Allah Ta’ala has distinguished men from women respectively in
their beauty, e.g. externally the masculine beauty of a man is in the beard
and the feminine beauty of a woman is in her long hair.
It is reported from Hadhrat Ali (Radhiyallaahu nhu) that Rasulullah
(Sallallaaahu layhi Wasallam) prohibited a woman from shaving her hair.
Hence, for men to shave the beard is like the women shaving their head.
8) In their external features Allah Ta’ala created both sexes differently.
For this and other reasons men are strictly prohibited to imitate women and
vice versa.
Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu layhi Wasallam) cursed men who imitate women and
cursed women who imitate men. (
9) Hadith
Glory (to Allah) who beautified men by their beard and beautified women by
their plaits and locks of hair. (Takmela e Bahr Raiq vol. 3 p. 331)
NOTE: The above is a hymn read by groups of angels as indicted in the
hadith.
In conclusion, we must remember that our perpetual enemy, Shaitaan, will
cause us to deviate from the truth and constantly instruct us to follow his
dubious ways. Allah Ta’ala says, “And surely I (Shaitaan) will most
definitely deviate them, aspire them and order them;hence they will change
Allah’s creation.”(Qur’an 4:119)Source
^^ thank you muniya i think that article is in one of the sites i gave the link for anyways my point was that.
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no one gave a good answer
'Indeed we have created human beings of the best stature.'(At-tin : 4)
If this means women shouldn't cut there hair, this must also mean men mustn't cut there hair either! Because it does not say 'we have created women of the best stature', it talks of all mankind.
Will the above verse also mean we should not comb our hair, clip our nails and shave pubic hair?
Why don't I see a command by Hazrat Muhammed(saw) in the above hadiths? No where in above hadiths it said that he "commanded" women to keep long hair! All it says is he liked beard and he liked women with long hair -- I would call it 'personal preference'....I think he will be ok if I disagree with him because I don't find men with beard attractive neither do I adore women with long hair...I don't think all women look beautiful in long hair!! I think these scholars do only one job best - > making womens lives hell in every damn possible way!
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*Originally posted by Paaga| |nsaan: *
'Indeed we have created human beings of the best stature.'(At-tin : 4)
If this means women shouldn't cut there hair, this must also mean men mustn't cut there hair either! Because it does not say 'we have created women of the best stature', it talks of all mankind.
Will the above verse also mean we should not comb our hair, clip our nails and shave pubic hair?
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Religion is for women. God is for men!
^ its not entirely the scholar's fault... its the people interpreting them..
Pagal Insan.. right on... people only find what suits them in the hadiths.. when something doesnt.. it must be false... truth is... these hadiths are just examples... and if the hadiths is stating what the Prophet liked or disliked.. thats fine... but are we suppose to be following all of that? we give more thought to what the Prophet said.. rather than what Allah Mian says .. as in ignoring the Quran...
(i sound like a tape on repeat)
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I agree, we don't need to be following what the prophet liked...not in these minor issues but we do need hadiths for major issues like salat, hajj, etc....Quran does not explain them in great details if you've looked them up there!