Re: Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief
one thing i heared......check its authenticity @ ur own
law of wife's permission' made by R. Col. Ayub Khan (late)
laws made by ppl can never be as per given in Quran or hadees
Laws made by people do have a place in Islamic jurisprudence by the names of Ijma and Ijtehad but only if they don't go against Quran and Sunnah.
Re: Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief
Laws made by people do have a place in Islamic jurisprudence by the names of Ijma and Ijtehad but only if they don't go against Quran and Sunnah.
You are absolutely right. Anyhow, law to get permission from first wife before second marriage is enforcement of something Allah mentioned in Quran. So one can say that this law not only saves many 'divorces' (as wife has every right to get Khula because of second marriage, as she can site injustice to her), but also saves husband and wives from Hell fire ... as it is possible that no khula happens, then husband would be doing injustice and go to hell for that, while wife (probably both wives) suffering injustices could start complaining (or backbiting) instead of coming out of marriage (Khula) what Allah allowed, thus ending up in hell too.
one thing i heared......check its authenticity @ ur own
law of wife's permission' made by R. Col. Ayub Khan (late)
laws made by ppl can never be as per given in Quran or hadees
^^^ Sheerani jaisay log zahni tor per mafloog hotay hain, iss liya sheerani aur un jaisay khiyal rakhnay walon ko jawab daina bay-maqsad hota hay. Anyhow, for those who can think, we should know that in Quran, even though Allah allowed four marriages, especially under certain circumstances, Allah recommends one marriage in Quran.
That recommendation of one marriage is also due to inability of a person giving justice to wives. So, it is logical that from an act if first wife can get injustice, law (by state) should be made, that can be justified by words of Quran, such that husband intending to take second wife, should involve first wife (as she would suffer injustice from the act) and thus should take her permission for second marriage.
Above law should be on top of first wife’s right to take Khula because husband took second wife, citing injustice to her that cannot be questioned, as even Allah says in Quran that injustice would happen.
Here is ayah: 4:3 (Surah Nisa … Ayah 3):
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Yusuf Ali: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them),then **only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, **that will be more suitable,* to prevent you from doing injustice.
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Shakir: And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) **only one* or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course
From above ayahs, it is clear that ayah allowing more than one wife is related to orphans … or one can say, especial circumstances, but again … in same ayah, Allah says that what is more proper … more suitable … is to marry one.
**
Thus, for those who believe on **‘words of Allah in Quran’, to marry more than one is not suitable nor it is proper **(as it could make them deviate from right course)****. **So, knowing that Allah is saying that marrying more than one is neither suitable nor proper for husband, how someone would ignore words of Allah and marry more?
True, Allah has also said that if you think you can give justice to all wives, than only marry more. Since, there is no way to work out if a person would be able to do justice or not, if state has introduced a law that second marriage can be allowed only if first wife who is likely to receive injustice, at least she should be involved in marriage, and give permission for second marriage. So, what is wrong there … and where you find that the law is against Quran?
Re: Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief
The article says there were other issues they discussed as well, but as it happens time and time again, only part of the news is reported.
“The meeting also reviewed various laws, including the Protection of Pakistan Act, the National Security Policy, the code of conduct to prevent sectarian terrorism and sex education in the curriculum.”
Re: Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief
Let's not criticize the man for what he spoke is truth in this matter.
There is no need for second marriage 'approval' by first wife in Islam.
She can object and ask for Khula, but only on the ground for being treated unjustly.
Is there anything which says in Islam, first wife has to approve second marriage? If so then please correct me.
Now:
It is not like a man is advised to get married more than once in Islam. It is only allowed (not advised or commanded), and allowed in very limited extraneous circumstances. If anything, he is cautioned against marrying more than once.
Permission is not required but informing and not keeping in dark the first wife, is ethical, moral and religious duty of the man.
It is not even a big issue. Muslim men don't just go out and marry multiple wives in general.
Re: Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief
Lmao! I hope the prevent is not for the sex education part.
Re: Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief
^ You seem to have sobered up since you got back with different ID, but not enough. ;)
Re: Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief
Laws made by people do have a place in Islamic jurisprudence by the names of Ijma and Ijtehad but only if they don't go against Quran and Sunnah.
exactly *if they don't go against Quran and Sunnah *
Re: Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief
You are absolutely right. Anyhow, law to get permission from first wife before second marriage is enforcement of something Allah mentioned in Quran. So one can say that this law not only saves many 'divorces' (as wife has every right to get Khula because of second marriage, as she can site injustice to her), but also saves husband and wives from Hell fire ... as it is possible that no khula happens, then husband would be doing injustice and go to hell for that, while wife (probably both wives) suffering injustices could start complaining (or backbiting) instead of coming out of marriage (Khula) what Allah allowed, thus ending up in hell too.
^^^ Sheerani jaisay log zahni tor per mafloog hotay hain, iss liya sheerani aur un jaisay khiyal rakhnay walon ko jawab daina bay-maqsad hota hay. Anyhow, for those who can think, we should know that in Quran, even though Allah allowed four marriages, especially under certain circumstances, Allah recommends one marriage in Quran.
That recommendation of one marriage is also due to inability of a person giving justice to wives. So, it is logical that from an act if first wife can get injustice, law (by state) should be made, that can be justified by words of Quran, such that husband intending to take second wife, should involve first wife (as she would suffer injustice from the act) and thus should take her permission for second marriage.
Above law should be on top of first wife’s right to take Khula because husband took second wife, citing injustice to her that cannot be questioned, as even Allah says in Quran that injustice would happen.
Here is ayah: 4:3 (Surah Nisa … Ayah 3): * Yusuf Ali: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them),then **only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, **that will be more suitable,* to prevent you from doing injustice. * Shakir: And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) **only one* or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course
From above ayahs, it is clear that ayah allowing more than one wife is related to orphans … or one can say, especial circumstances, but again … in same ayah, Allah says that what is more proper … more suitable … is to marry one. ** Thus, for those who believe on **‘words of Allah in Quran’, to marry more than one is not suitable nor it is proper **(as it could make them deviate from right course)****. **So, knowing that Allah is saying that marrying more than one is neither suitable nor proper for husband, how someone would ignore words of Allah and marry more?
True, Allah has also said that if you think you can give justice to all wives, than only marry more. Since, there is no way to work out if a person would be able to do justice or not, if state has introduced a law that second marriage can be allowed only if first wife who is likely to receive injustice, at least she should be involved in marriage, and give permission for second marriage. So, what is wrong there … and where you find that the law is against Quran?
very true...........agreed