I said what I said because you always act like this wounded muslim in the west w/o understanding that it is cycle that feeds itself. The least that muslims can do is actively fight against wahabbis and their extremist ideologies that are perpetrated by countries like qatar and saudia. But oh well, if only pakistani community had educated itself so that it wouldn't need saudi funding to make madarsas or is it to force saudis not to make any madarsas / mosques in the west.
How do you know I don’t do that? You don’t read most of my posts on GS but what you posted is exactly what I do. Every single time I think in threads I have been the only one making the point that Saudis seem to the biggest exporter of extreme ideology around the world, not just in Pakistan.
But saying that, a lot of mosques I know in UK atleast aren’t funded by ‘‘Saudi money’’. They’re run privately in local neighbourhoods using donations by everyone who lives in the local mohala. And none of whom deserve this kind of disgusting racism.
I guess this is GS. To argue against what you have posted one gets called a Saudi lover and to argue for the points you have posted I have been called Iraninan/shia/Western lover on GS at the same time.
And btw…Muslims have faced racism in the West since the 60’s and 70’s when there was no issue of extremism. Perhaps you need to read up ‘Paki bashing’
you have anjum chaudhry and hizb tehreer, though I think that the saudis won't like the latter's talk of caliphate as that would end the monarchy.
As for suffering, there is less goodwill for muslims for what is happening to them in sri lanka or has happened in thailand / burma precisely because of the bs that alqaeda / ISIS etc spout and the minor excuses needed for muslim mobs to burn things down on anything "blasphemous" to islam.
As for suffering, there is less goodwill for muslims for what is happening to them in sri lanka or has happened in thailand / burma precisely because of the bs that alqaeda / ISIS etc spout and the minor excuses needed for muslim mobs to burn things down on anything "blasphemous" to islam.
Good will? Those who make moralistic arguments and no less wage wars along such lines should not be in the business of acting based on "good will". So to hell with "good will". Muslims, Westerners, whomever....practice what you preach, otherwise you're a problem.
ANYWAYS, geopolitics aside, this discussion is getting rather asinine for a local crime that has no known motive as yet. Yes, racism does exist in the West, and it did so well before ISIS, Al-Q, or whomever. Time will tell if that played a factor.
Ironic point of this whole debate is that I am not even deeply religious. There are 2 million Muslims in UK and Anjem paa jee has an organisation that numbers 40? or a 100 and who has been condemned by every big Muslim organisation. Obviously the latter bit won’t be flaunted much by the rags or better known as tabloid media. I agree with your points however this has little to do with what ISIS is doing. The local pinhead in UK who’s on the dole can barely tell you who’s the PM of the England let alone the geo-political situation in Iraq
There was even more vicious racism in the UK in the 70’s. Again read up ‘Paki bashing’. Yet back then extremism wasn’t associated with Muslims as it is now. These idiots also have attacked blacks or anyone with brown skin. Now I am not sure which terrorist activities blacks are carrying out.
Racist crime is a racist crime. You trying to justify it is the same as the Taliban trying to justify it by using flimsy grievances when they murder innocents.
Other than that I agree with you. Picioio above who’s replied to you once thought I was a pro-Iranian and anti-Saudi when I bashed Saudi Arabia for creating the mess that is the Middle East now, chalo atleast I am neutral.
as long as Muslims are committing murders in the name of Islam, this can be expected. these nuts when see on TV how Muslims are terrorizing innocent people over all parts of the world, they justify their actions as a retaliatory measure. they attack any Muslim who the symbolizes Islam, a woman in Hijaab or a man with beard or our religious centres and/or places of worship.
i hope that the police will catch the murderer and put him in jail for ever.
btw,** since i don't have the details of the incidence**, i wonder if it was as a result of domestic dispute!
Aik to you didn't have details. Doosri baat yeh k....I don't know you determined from the limited info in Nadz's post that the woman was killed by a Muslim?
There's been a third attack in the same area now so I think it might have just been a case of the poor woman being in the wrong place at the wrong time..
The 3rd possible victim was a lady out jogging but she managed to fight off the attacker.. This happened just a few roads away and a couple of days after the Saudi student Naheed was murdered.. It's not known as an 'unsafe' area at night let alone in the daytime when this happened..
There seem to be some clues now.. A picture has been released of a coat the attacker may have been wearing and it's been said that some witnesses of the 3rd attack saw a knife.. Imo a physical description of that person may be coming soon as well.. 3 possible murders in 3 months in such a small area is crazy..
There's been a third attack in the same area now so I think it might have just been a case of the poor woman being in the wrong place at the wrong time..
The 3rd possible victim was a lady out jogging but she managed to fight off the attacker.. This happened just a few roads away and a couple of days after the Saudi student Naheed was murdered.. It's not known as an 'unsafe' area at night let alone in the daytime when this happened..
There seem to be some clues now.. A picture has been released of a coat the attacker may have been wearing and it's been said that some witnesses of the 3rd attack saw a knife.. Imo a physical description of that person may be coming soon as well.. 3 possible murders in 3 months in such a small area is crazy..
They have already taken someone in for questioning ...
The problem with these radicals is that they create a basis for the fascists, they end up fueling each others existence. And the people who are just living their lives get caught in the mess. The radicals don't understand that they cause this ... they think their actions have no consequence on society and they believe that they can use force and threats to subdue a nation. Coupled with the media it generates a very hostile and suspicious few - those who already harbour supremacist attitudes.
Though born and baptized Catholic, Hitler was not practicing. His regime didn't publicly call for atheism but it did try to reduce the influence of Christianity/Catholicism.
Actually that is wrong. The catholic church sided with Nazi Germany and he looked for many "miracle items" from christian mythos. Yes Hollywood has galvanized it but it is based on truth.
This maybe considered off topic but Hitler was a Christian extremist who hated Jews.
"My feelings as a Christian **points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. **In boundless love as a Christian **and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. **As a Christian **I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . **For as a Christian **I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
An update to the case.. A boy has appeared in court and is being charged with her murder, as well as that of another victim:
'A 16-year-old boy has appeared in court accused of murdering a man and a woman in Colchester.
** Saudi national Nahid Almanea, 31, was stabbed 16 times as she walked to the University of Essex campus last June.James Attfield, 33, was found with 102 knife wounds in Castle Park last March. The boy, from Colchester, entered no plea during a short hearing at Chelmsford Magistrates’ Court. He was remanded in custody to appear at the city’s crown court on Monday.'**
