Muslim sect 'kept children in cells underground for TEN YEARS

[diwana]

Re: Muslim sect 'kept children in cells underground for TEN YEARS

A lot of unnecessary discussion could have been avoided if word Muslim was not included in the title or first post to identify this group of people or cult.

[Captain1]

Re: Muslim sect 'kept children in cells underground for TEN YEARS

So you can kill an entire race of people and still be a Muslim, but If you believe in a Prophet after the Prophet Muhammad SAW you are not a Muslim anymore? Ouch!

So according to your great understanding, which verse/hadith says that if you kill someone you are not a Muslim.... that is if you are a Muslim and have understanding of religion, or you just want to make some "intellectual" comments as outsider?

But, But, but isn't Isa Masih (PBUH) going to be a Prophet when he comes back after the Prophet Muhammad SAW? So we shouldn't acknowledge him then...I guess.

You can do what you desire, Muslims would know and acknowledge.

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

Re: Muslim sect 'kept children in cells underground for TEN YEARS

So you can kill an entire race of people and still be a Muslim, but If you believe in a Prophet after the Prophet Muhammad SAW you are not a Muslim anymore? Ouch!

But, But, but isn't Isa Masih (PBUH) going to be a Prophet when he comes back after the Prophet Muhammad SAW? So we shouldn't acknowledge him then...I guess.

Isa (pbuh) became a prophet more than 500 years before Muhammad (pbuh) - that makes Muhammad (pbuh) the last man to become a prophet.

The return of Isa (pbuh) will be the return to this world of an earlier prophet who has not died yet, rather than someone who became a prophet after Muhammad (pbuh) died.

U sure about That ?????

Allah khair karey

Absolutely sure. Muslim jurists agreed on this point in response to the beliefs of the Khawarij, the group which killed Caliph Ali (ra). The Khawarij believed that if you willfully committed sin by doing something forbidden by Allah SWT, then you were no longer a Muslim and left Islam. Since leaving Islam is apostasy and punishable by death, they concluded that any Muslim who willfully sinned must be killed.

Muslim jurists refuted this and established the principle that sinning alone does not negate your deen. You would have to sin and claim that you what you were doing was not sinful in order to be considered to possibly leave Islam and not be Muslim.

[Ma_Mooli]

Muslim sect 'kept children in cells underground for TEN YEARS

Excuse me but i think the important issue here is that 27 kids were involved, the youngest a year old, and that a 17 year old was found pregnant. There is suspect of abuse, where kids were virtually imprisoned and you think his muslim-ness is the bigger issue here?

[lethal_kamikaze]

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@Ma_Mooli

Excuse me but i think the important issue here is that 27 kids were involved, the youngest a year old, and that a 17 year old was found pregnant. There is suspect of abuse, where kids were virtually imprisoned and you think his muslim-ness is the bigger issue here?

I second to that :k: