Musharraf's treason trial

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^^^ Well as a someone who practices law for living I can tell you that whenever you have bunch of lawyers trying to raise doubts about trial even before the trial starts they usually know that their chances of winning are slim. That is why they usually try to create doubts about the process itself rather than trial or the fairness of the trial. I do want to give credit to NS for not overly getting involved in it and letting the process work out as it should w/o being seen as manipulating the judges.

And the ironic thing is that Mushy's 2 lead attorneys, Perzada and Kasuri, are 2 of the most rotten and shadiest characters you can possibly find. These were the same people who advised him on declaring emergency on the 1st place, and with lawyers like these 2 slimeballs, he is screwed for sure.

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PM offers special plane to bring home Musharraf’s ailing mother - DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD: Federal Information Minister Pervez Rasheed on Friday said the independent judiciary would decide about the fate of General (retd) Pervez Musharraf.

“[However], the Prime Minister of Pakistan on sympathetic grounds, is ready to send special plane or an air ambulance to bring his mother back home so as to continue her medical treatment in Pakistan and she could be with her son,” the Government’s Spokesman said in a statement issued by the PM’s Office.

The Spokesman said the Government of Pakistan would provide all facilities for the treatment of the mother of General (retd) Musharraf.

Former president of Pakistan Gen (r) Pervez Musharraf is facing a number of high-profile cases in the superior courts and has obtained bail in the Nawab Akbar Bugti murder case, Benazir Bhutto assassination case and the Lal Masjid cleric killing case.

He is also facing a treason trial under Article 6 of the constitutions over the imposition of emergency and sacking of judges in November 2007.

The former military dictator’s name was added to the Exit Control List in April this year after the apex court bench hearing the treason case issued directives to the Secretary Interior.

Musharraf’s lawyers have moved a petition in the Sindh High Court to remove his client’s name from the ECL pleading that trial courts had confirmed Musharraf’s bail in all cases against him.

The plea had said that Musharraf wanted to leave for Dubai to enquire on the health of his 95-year-old mother, who is seriously ill and unable to travel to Pakistan. It had further said that it was Musharraf’s desire to be with his mother after he had been released on bail in all cases against him.

The SHC on December 23 disposed off the former military strongman’s application seeking removal of his name from the ECL and advised him to contact the federal government over the matter.

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anaconda in PML-N tells me that pressure-on from “custodians of two mosques & dictators” to pardon Gen. Mushraff. End-game very-soon!

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The drama will end with a face-saving for all. Musharraf would be sentenced by the court, only to be pardoned by the president. He will then proceed to the safety of Dubai or freedom of London.

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^ as usual wrong ^_^
Watch few more months and his release from all cases will be a slap to all haters.

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killing a million afghans
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Are there even a million afghans in afghanistan?

Shogun, you better start updating your madarsa syllabus ASAP !

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Which means he will get a 'fair' trial?

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At the link, it does say that the President can impose emergency. Heck, why wouldn’t it be possible when the PM in whose term the 3rd constitution was approved was a CMLA himself?

Part X: “Emergency Provisions”

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You think the trials relate to him are fair?

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WoW! Every one is worried about 2007 emergency but no one is talking about 1999 coup. Why not try Musharraf for imposing Oct 1999 Marshal law instead? But how is that possible because it will expose both current and former CJ and many others who were part of Mush machinery.

This whole drama is total BS.

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That has to do with governors rule & not what Mushrraf did by suspending the constitution. And his actions were never validated by the Parliament.

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I don't know. You expect him to be acquitted of all cases. If that is unfair, so be it. :)

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Wasn't it validated by the assembly then and the judges that came in with the new PCO? To me, it seems like a weak case.

It looks like 1999 has been validated here so nawaz sharif was actually trying to crash a PIA plane?

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I think you are wrong here. According to constitution, if law and order situation or internal disturbances happen that is beyond the powers of a (any) provincial government to control, than President can impose emergency in the country (not just one province), that President can do on his own.

Anyhow, as for Musharraf case, it was not just President acting on his own, but whole cabinet, governor and chief Minsiter of each Provinces, head of intelligence agencies, core commanders, JCSC, head of forces, Army Chief (Musharraf himself), all agreed that law and order situation has gone bad (reason was that courts were not punishing criminals in terrorist activities and were acting on government functions that had made financial situation out of countrol).

After emergency, Parliament of that tome approved the emergency and 7 bench Supreme Court (under CJ Dogar) validated that emergency.

Once Dogar retired, corrupt iftikhar was put back as CJ under the pressure of corrupt lawyers, who in March 2007 also did everything and stopped all corruption investigation against Iftikhar. Now, after becoming CJ, if Iftikhar invalidated cabinet decisions, SC decisions, parliament decision and also made Judges dismissed, than that is nothing but mockery of all laws and later someone else can come again to make mockery of Pakistani laws and system, invalidating all what iftikhar thug has done. Lets wait for that day

Anyhow, since Musharraf is not alone in this case, neither his action, that was under the advice of Prime Minister and cabinet, with consultation of all relevant bodies that mattered, cannot and should not be seen as President's personal decision.

What is happening is bias justice and victimization of Musharraf.

We know that lawyers came out (in March 2007) and stopped investigation on Iftikhar Choor and also stopped him getting justifiably punished for his crimes ... we also know that police, journalists, doctors, transporters. actually all come out even when their member's present and past if full of crimes ... we know that political workers do everything to protect their corrupt and characterless political masters who treat these workers like pigs ... and same is true about every Pakistani department that people come out to even protect their corrupt and thief attached to them .... then:

We cannot say what would happen when army would see unjustified persecution and biased persecution of their past chief who has done a lot for them and country ... maybe they would do what they can and that is use of guns what they have.

Actually, making an example of Musharraf and that also after giving him biased justice, means, tomorrow anyone can kick an army officer (justly or unjustly) and expect that army would do nothing.

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and of course not the brains which they lack.

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^^^ What I wanted to say is that, if trial would not be seen as fair, unbiased and justified, and across the board, than consequence could be too bad to imagine, as there is possibility that in such situation no one would again go to KSA, but their most likely destination would be 'shaher-e-Khamooshan'.

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more than a milllion dead in afghanistan due to Mr Musharraf's direct and open assistance of the crusader forces.. more than 25,000 massacred in tribal areas, LAL MASJID and JAMIA HAfSA (RA) massacre, Bugti and Benazir assassinations, illegal forced detention of countless islamic minded people and baloch men, hand over of more than 500 muslims to the Crusader forces in return of money (including our beloved sister AAFIA SIDDIQUI.. last but not the least >.... NRO)...

and people like you never spoke of consequences... NOW that it is HIS turn to face the TRUTH ... many seculars are scare-mongering so that HE GET AWAY WITH HIS CRIMES... nice try sir.. keep it up!

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^^^ I am not bothered what would happen to Musharraf. Rather I would like to see Musharraf on trial full of biases, discrimination, and persecution, so we can see revenge of guns against revenge of democracy.

[Nahi tou, I would start kicking any retired military man with expectation that army has become impotent and would not even stand behind their officers getting victimised, and persecuted illegally, discriminatory, and full of bias].

As for assisting crusaders in Afghanistan, I think Musharraf has done mistake. He should have told USA not to bother and risk their men in Afghanistan, rather Musharraf should have sent in Pakistan army in Afghanistan to punish Taliban and A-Q, Taliban style, that is arresting Taliban and A-Q men, and stuffing them in containers like sardine and then letting them die there suffering from heat, hunger, thirst, and suffocation (no prisoners, just death … so that they reach their Paradise as quickly as possible on the bosom of their Hoors … or churails, who knows).

Those who got massacred in Tribal areas (according to you, 25000), the figure is nothing but BS, still, most of them got killed in Tribal areas were either terrorists (Taliban, A-Q, etc) or those who got killed by terrorists. Those killed by terrorists are going to get revenged, if not today then soon. As for terrorists (Taliban, A-Q, and their sympathizers), they deserve death as that make them reach their goal of self-belief paradise and unlimited Hoors. I think it is best that after killing, their body should be fed to dogs (if dogs do not protest that they are getting fed body of jahanumis).

I think Musharraf also did mistake regarding lal-Masjid and Jamia Hafsa, because only 80 got killed when there were over few 1000 terrorist in these two buildings and all deserved to get killed. I think instead of risking life of Pakistani commandos, best solution would have been bombing both building to ground and making sure no prisoner is taken. That would have saved 1000s of innocent Pakistani lives, as many devils of lal-Masjid and Jamia-Hafsa later became solders of devil, killing innocent Pakistanis and dying haram death (doing suicide bombings).

Handover 500 Muslims to crusaders … what a farce statement. These terrorists illegally entered Pakistan and were wanted criminals. Pakistan offered their home countries to take these Parasites, but their home countries refused, so Pakistan gave them to USA (who willingly paid Pakistan for these worthless garbage). I think instead of giving them to USA, Pakistan should have put them in containers and let them die in containers suffering from heat, suffocation, thirst, and hunger (it would have been appropriate for them as that is what these terrorist criminals use to do with their prisoners).

As for Aafia Siddiqui, what can one say? Either she was criminal or there must be something especial in her, that out of 90 million women in Pakistan and over a million Pakistani women in western world, America had a crush on her (only her) and wanted her at any cost even though she was innocent. She was American too, as she loved USA so much that she discarded Pakistani nationality for American nationality and job in USA. Her brother loves USA so much that even when USA had crush on his sister, he is still living and earning in USA. Kiya kiya jaa sakta hay? America was her Majnu and she was their Laila, so America took her (from Afghanistan) and is keeping her in USA.

As for NRO … that was a big mistake again. Musharraf issued NRO for those who are worse than animals. But what can one say, as those for whom NRO was issued, most Pakistanis love them. Thus NRO was face of Pakistani democracy. :)

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Only if daddy amrika allows the generals another adventure. As far as Mush is concerned, they have already used him and is now irrelevant for the USA.