And i guess we are talking about Pakistani politics here. What exectations one had when this new government took oath?? That every wrong would become right and all hanky pankies from Pakistani administration would be gone?
Doesn't matter who takes over where, right is always right, "norm" doesn't become "right".
I hope he delivers, good luck to him :k:
ehtesaab, he was axed because of his failed reforms and close association with Mush.
Reforms in complicated tax system are considered a failure of the outgoing chairman. The Board had launched a multi-million dollar World Bank funded programme to reform the complex tax system and facilitate the taxpayers. Even after passage of several years, the tax authorities could not complete the process.
The outgoing Chairman takes the credit of crossing Rs 1000 billion revenue collection barrier. When he took the charge, the annual revenue collection was around Rs 500 billion. **The independent economists do not give him this credit due to Board’s reliance on indirect taxes.
FBR Chairman axed while on visit to Russia | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
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ehtesaab, he was axed because of his failed reforms and close association with Mush.
I am okay if anyone is axed if he fails to deliver but "association with Mush" should not be the criteria. If Zardari is not willing to take on Mush then why remove his associates? Does it mean he doesn't have guts to do that and is taking out frustration on less powerful? I guess that reflects his wader-pan.
Reforms in complicated tax system are considered a failure of the outgoing chairman. The Board had launched a multi-million dollar World Bank funded programme to reform the complex tax system and facilitate the taxpayers. Even after passage of several years, the tax authorities could not complete the process. The outgoing Chairman takes the credit of crossing Rs 1000 billion revenue collection barrier. When he took the charge, the annual revenue collection was around Rs 500 billion. *The independent economists do not give him this credit due to Board’s reliance on indirect taxes. *
I am not an expert, haven't ever filed taxes in Pakistan so I don't know what kind of reforms he was implementing but seems like the revenues did go up during his tenures. Now whether the revenues went up because of GDP (economic progress) or his reforms, I am not sure about that.
Lets hope Waqar can pull it though (implement reforms as well as increase revenue collection).
Doesn't matter who takes over where, right is always right, "norm" doesn't become "right".
Yes right is always right, who said it is not. He is removed, another favorite (now of this government) took over.
re: Musharraf's chairman FBR dismissed
^ Saad, actually Waqar was on a high up position in the previous Govt's tenure as well, but he was sent on a forced leave because of a dispute between him and the coalition Govt.
re: Musharraf's chairman FBR dismissed
ehtesaab, that was because of indirect taxes and not improvement in the collection. This is why independent economists, as suggested by that article, do not give credit to him.
re: Musharraf's chairman FBR dismissed
^ Saad, actually Waqar was on a high up position in the previous Govt's tenure as well, but he was sent on a forced leave because of a dispute between him and the coalition Govt.
^Ok,Hopefully Waqar would also work for the betterment of this system.
Yes right is always right,** who said it is not.** He is removed, another favorite (now of this government) took over.
When you said
And that goes on with any new government, nothing wrong in doing it.
it means that it is "okay" or "right" to do, anyway now that we are on same page lets move on.
ehtesaab, that was because of indirect taxes and not improvement in the collection. This is why independent economists, as suggested by that article, do not give credit to him.
Though I have no clue about that :D... but thanks anyway for info.
When you said it means that it is "okay" or "right" to do, anyway now that we are on same page lets move on.
Well i said, it is not wrong to put your own favorite people in Pakistani politics or politics anywhere... You said right is always right and norm is not. Now some political party's person may be less or may be more qualified then the previous one, but his positioning may be more politically motivated rather then based on merit. And this has happened in the Pakistani politics before. Now Waqar may be more qualified then his predecessor, and he might not have any thing to do with the current coalition government, but even if he was realated to this govt. and would have fulfilled the criteria for this job, his positioning would have been a right move. This happens in politics all over the world, that when parties come in power they bring their own staff and bureaucrates in.
Well i said, it is not wrong to put your own favorite people in Pakistani politics or politics anywhere... You said right is always right and norm is not. Now some political party's person may be less or may be more qualified then the previous one, but his positioning may be more politically motivated rather then based on merit. And this has happened in the Pakistani politics before. Now Waqar may be more qualified then his predecessor, and he might not have any thing to do with the current coalition government, but even if he was realated to this govt. and would have fulfilled the criteria for this job, his positioning would have been a right move. This happens in politics all over the world, that when parties come in power they bring their own staff and bureaucrates in.
We can agree to disagree. I don't agree that a better person be replaced with an incompetent just because he is a politically favorite of new govt, period. Whether whole world is doing it or not, I don't care. If it is covered by law or if due legal process has been taken then its okay.
We can agree to disagree. I don't agree that a better person be replaced with an incompetent just because he is a politically favorite of new govt, period. Whether whole world is doing it or not, I don't care. If it is covered by law or if due legal process has been taken then its okay.
Ya that should be a perfect scenario may be in an ideal world.
Ya that should be a perfect scenario may be in an ideal world.
In US most of the "political" appointments occur when someone's tenure is up, he doesn't get "fired/sacked" by new government just because they want to place their political pawns.
^Ok,Hopefully Waqar would also work for the betterment of this system.
Waqar was also amongst most high ups in previous government and no one is against Waqar or for that matter, any ABC. Problem is not about replacing old Chief FBR either.
Problem is that old Chief FBR was under contract and did nothing against contract. His contract was still running when he got sacked. He was travelling abroad on official duty and was sacked as if Pakistan is Kingdom and King desired it. Nothing mattered to King, performance or contract. If he had done anything wrong then he could have got suspended and investigation should have got started (like what happened with corrupt Iftikhar), but no, he was sacked without any reason.
Now tell me, if this is the situation in Pakistan, why Waqar should perform? He should know that it is best for him to massage backside of King and his men (Zardari and other PPP leaders) and make money for himself and them, rather work hard for the country and perform. He should know that his tenure is as insecure as Yousuf tenure, as he can get sacked without any reason. He should also know that whatever performance he shows, he could get replaced by this government if they would just desire regardless of his performance/contract, or next government who would bring their man irrespective of his performance or contract. So, it should be in his mind that why work hard and perform for country, rather work for himself, King and King's men, so all can make money at the expense of country.
Sacking of Yousuf also make things obvious to other hard working talented Pakistanis who may think to work for Pakistan, that contracts never get honoured or hard work do not pay in this banana country where political Kings rule and subjects of political Kings consider everything fair.
So spock bhai jan, what is your objection to his dance? Aaap koi us ki kiya cheez achchi nahi lagi …
Sacking of Yousuf also make things obvious to other hard working talented Pakistanis who may think to work for Pakistan, that contracts never get honoured or hard work do not pay in this banana country where political Kings rule and subjects of political Kings consider everything fair.
I agree with most of what you said and will extend it a little more to include the military rulers (the king-ship behavior is not limited to political kings only).
In US most of the "political" appointments occur when someone's tenure is up, he doesn't get "fired/sacked" by new government just because they want to place their political pawns.
It has happened many times from Reagan to Clinton to Bush administration. The difference is Senate approves it first. And if you are a majority in senate you can get your appointee approved. For example in case of Richard Clarke, Joe Wilson, Rand Beers and George Tenet etc.... Bush forget to fire them after Clinton administration expired and these came back to haunt him and his administration forever.. Besides we are talking mainly of Pakistani politics here.
So spock bhai jan, what is your objection to his dance? Aaap koi us ki kiya cheez achchi nahi lagi ....
Yar dont tell me you liked it. A 60 year old guy, on such a high profile position, hired purely on the basis of favoritism should know better to dance like a hijra infront of an audience consisting of the PM and the President, probably drunk at the ARMY house! Everything is objectionable about this.
Yar dont tell me you liked it. A 60 year old guy, on such a high profile position, hired purely on the basis of favoritism should know better to dance like a hijra infront of an audience consisting of the PM and the President, probably drunk at the ARMY house! Everything is objectionable about this.
Is that Hijra's dance, never seen that before. Have you ever seen a drunk guy, he wouldn't be balanced enough to even dance. So are high profile figures not allowed to ease up and have fun? Or is that a privilege exlcusive to ordinary people only. I don't think anyone can tell from that video that he was appointed on favoritism. Can you? I think we are blowing his dance out of proportion and setting up ideals here that a person with a high profile role cannot have fun. He is still a human being with feelings and a knack for fun, his performance and role at work has nothing to do with it.