Musharraf defends Pakistan Army on Indian Media

[Sa1eem]

Re: Musharraf defends Pakistan Army on Indian Media

@StormRaiser

It is easy to compare apples and oranges. Let us understand the situation better. In Siachen it was the army that occupied Siachen and the Indian government was explicit on this. It did not send soldiers disguised as rats to achieve its end goals.

Truth is that, Indian government and Indian army have no shame in violating agreements (LOC) or violating borders, hence they used their regular armed forces to sneak into Siachin as rats.

As for Pakistan at kargil, they did not needed to send Pakistan army, as Kashmiri freedom fighters are already kicking the ass of Indian armed forces all over Kashmir and at Kargil too.

What happened at Kargil was that Azad Kashmir regular forces (AKRF), an entity not officially part of Pakistan army, joined Kashmiri freedom fighters to occupy Kargil. So, when Pakistan claims that Pakistan army was not involved, they are (technically) right.

I do not understand why the Pakistani political government did not handle the situation better. Was it a failure on its part. I do not think you can blame India for this. I do not want to go into the reasons on how NS was forced to run to Washington begging for a ceasefire. I hope know how difficult it was for NS to achieve what he did.

If you do not know the truth and want to comment around people who know, then it is nothing but stupidity. Your BS that NS was forced to run to Washington begging for a ceasefire is nothing but ignorance of truth. What ‘Nawaz Shareef’ did was, he went to USA when called by his master Bill Clinton who was acting because Indian Prime Minister was begging Clinton to make Pakistan withdraw from Kargil.

I know you would not like to believe me as your Indian propaganda infected mind (helped by lies from Pakistani shameless politicians) would not let you accept the facts I mentioned, so you should get book written by then US deputy secretary of state ‘Strobe Talbot’, who was one of three people (other two were Nawaz and Clinton) in the meeting when Clinton was asking Nawaz for complete withdrawal from Kargil, and everything would be clear.

Actually, Talbot wrote that when Clinton was asking Nawaz to withdraw, Nawaz told Clinton that he would do that if India comes to table for talks on Kashmir, and Clinton got so upset that he started shouting at Nawaz telling him that it would be unacceptable to VajPayee, and when Nawaz agreed for withdrawal Clinton rang Vajpayee to give him good news.

I know that thinking logically and using brain is always lacking amongst Indian, but if you have any of those faculties than you can realise that** if Nawaz was begging for ceasefire then Nawaz was in no position to ask for something from Clinton in exchange of withdrawal from Kargil (Nawaz asked that he would order withdrawal if India comes to table for talk on Kashmir)**, neither Clinton would have rang Vajpayee with good news if Vajpayee was not begging Clinton to make Pakistan withdraw from kargil.

Let us understand this better shall we. I had asked a simple question for which you had no answer. The reason on why the Pakistani army went ahead and mutilated the bodies is very evident. Battles are won in the minds and not on the battlefields. Winning battles is all about motivating your army men to continue fighting even in the midst of extreme difficulties. I hope you remember your generals stating that one Pakistani army men was equal to 10 or more Indian army men when the Pakistani army was found to be outnumbered.

Here the thought process behind the mutilation and the torture was to show the Indian jawans that Pakistan does not honor Geneva conventions and would do everything possible to inflict the worst kind of tortures on any Indian jawan who is captured. This was a simple message that they wanted to send out.

Can’t you be logical and understand that Pakistan army is not stupid that they would give Indians mutilated bodies so that Indians who are always looking for propaganda material would make propaganda out of that? … Rather, everyone in Pakistan knows Indian crooked and devilish mentality so much that they could never trust Indians, because even if there is no propaganda material, Indians are good (though clumsy) in creating propaganda materials, as they did this time by mutilating bodies of Indian dead soldiers themselves, without realising that such things they cannot sell to anyone in the world except to their own brainwashed audience with vegetable minds.

But then, I can understand that you would not be able to understand all this.