Such as these FACTS about the Iranian government that is blindly supported by some because they are Muslim and because they stand up to the US (and maybe cuz they want the annihilation of Israel, I don't know):
imprisons, tortures and kills political opponents
runs exclusionary elections (shams)
outlaws human rights organizations and labor organizations
has no free press
has no right to dissent
denies the right of education
harrases and arrests the Baha’i religious minority
has fascist justice system with imprisonment and executions with mock 'trials'
lacks any fair labor laws
executes gays for consensual sexual activity
uses child soldiers, some as young as nine
gross lack of equal rights for women
I believe all of the above to be true. Unless someone can post something from some authoritative source that says that all of this is make-believe.
I would add one thing. Iran conducted a massive nuclear program for nearly 18 years in gross violation of the NPT treaty they signed. They mislead the world community and the IAEA during that time. As a result, not just the US, but the Europeans deeply distrust them, as they are proven liars. This is the same problem the world had with Saddam. Saddam claims to have no nuclear program then his son-in-law spills the story when he defects. So what do you believe?
Are we to believe Iran is sincere? Iran has purged it's Universities of anyone who does not think like the Government. They "disqualified" 2500 reform candidates from the elections because the Mullahs said so. What are we to believe about their intentions? They are not an open society. They scream death to Israel, question the Holocaust, and launch into one bombastic speech after another. What are we to believe?
I think Iran wants a conflict to solidify it's standing as the leading anti-US country. I think they are dying to give the US a black eye, and I started this thread to discuss that posibility. Relations with Iran *will *come to the boiling point at some time or another. It is just a matter of when.
you just totally dont understand the culture. the cultures are so so different, im not suprised you fail to comprehend these issues or even my comment here(probably). find out what the 'cheela' means to the people of pakistan in pakistan. you have zero reason to blame the government of iran past or present. if you do find out to a reasonable extent you'll have zero reason to blame the people either.
^exactly my point, your views seem educated but limited in scope and experience. you shouldnt be indulging in knocking the iranians for their own laws.
the ahmedinejad administration took power from what was called a 'moderate' government. the people didnt like it. who are you to criticise?
the ahmedinejad administration took power from what was called a 'moderate' government. the people didnt like it. who are you to criticise?
maybe the fact that all the moderate candidates were not allowed to run so the iranians had to pick either a Hitler or a Mussolini and they chose a Hitler
Rejected? Rejected? hahahahaha That is almost self-delusional.
Reform candidates were not allowed to run, and apparently 1.2 million ballots had hanging chad problems or something, as they were mysteriously thrown out. Let’s not kid anybody, Irans’ elections were anything but free and fair. The unelected mullahs systematically disenfranchised the reformers.
Rafsanjani to face Tehran mayor
Iran goes to presidential runoff
TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) – FormerPresident Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani will face Tehran Mayor Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a runoff election for the Iranian presidency, the Ministry of Interior said.
With all ballots counted, conservative Rafsanjani had more than 6.1 million votes, while the harder-line conservative Ahmadinejad had 5.7 million, Iranian state-run radio and television announced Saturday. The top two candidates face each other Friday.
Reformist cleric Mehdi Karroubi trailed in third place with nearly 5.1 million votes.
The conservative former police chief Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and reformist Mostafa Moin followed in fourth and fifth respectively with more than 4 million votes.
About 31 million people – nearly two-thirds of eligible voters – took part in Friday’s election. Of their ballots, 1.2 million were thrown out because they were “spoiled,” the government said.
While Iran’s U.N. Ambassador Javad Zarif called the turnout “better than expected,” it was lower than in previous presidential elections.
When Rafsanjani and Ahmadinejad face each other Friday, they’ll offer Iranian voters two strikingly different perspectives.
Rafsanjani, a conservative, has taken softer stances in recent months. He’s expressed a desire to improve Iran’s strained ties with the West – including the United States, which has had no formal diplomatic ties with Iran since its 1979 Islamic Revolution.
In 2002 President Bush termed Iran part of an “axis of evil,” along with North Korea and Iraq, then under Saddam Hussein.
Ahmadinejad, a hard-line conservative, has called for embracing the principles of the revolution. He has much support among vigilantes and popular militias, as well as poor people. He wants to turn some cultural institutions, created in recent years, back into mosques.
The outcome of the election is not expected to change Iran’s theocratic government. Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khameinei still has the last word in matters of state. Many of President Mohammed Khatami’s initiatives were blocked by clerical hard-liners who hold vast power under Iran’s Islamic government.
**The reform-minded cleric is barred from seeking a third consecutive term.
There have been no fair elections in Iran. Only the ayatollah hand-picked candidates are allowed to participate. That's why 'elections' are included in the list of oppressive practices by the Iranian government that I posted and no one can refute:
imprisons, tortures and kills political opponents runs exclusionary elections (shams)
outlaws human rights organizations and labor organizations
has no free press
has no right to dissent
denies the right of education
harrases and arrests the Baha’i religious minority
has fascist justice system with imprisonment and executions with mock 'trials'
lacks any fair labor laws
executes gays for consensual sexual activity
uses child soldiers, some as young as nine
gross lack of equal rights for women
Calling it lies, the poster an ignorant fool, or characterizing American core values as dishonesty and murdering innocent people, does nothing to refute these FACTS. What does it say about the core values of people who make such accusations?
Keep denying the truth about Iran and blindly support this oppressive regime against the west while you enjoy the freedoms you don't want Iranians to have.