Iran is a horrid regime and has been so since that doofus named khomeini did that revolution thing back then. However, to deal wit them we can not break international law. I say lets get UN aproval and colelctivelly go pimp slap ahmednijad and kim at the same time.
the only tyrannical regimes in the middle east are unwelcome outsiders and shining examples of wrongness
I don't have to be comfortable to read differeing views, but I refuse to be drawn into the ignorance that confuses government policy with fatwas.
The ONLY tryannical regimes? Sorry, but you have to show a little fairness in your posts if you care to be taken seriously.
what do you mean confusion of government policies with fatwa? you do realise iran is a theocracy that ultimately runs on the basis of fatwas dont you? All gov. policies are passed through the supreme ayatullah Khamenie. Its not a seperation of state from religion, at most they’re infused together.
Do you remember the 79 revolution of Ayatullah Ruholla Khomeini (Ra)? it was his famous fatwa to uprise against the shah that brought about the peoples revolution. so if tomorrow ayatullah sistani or khamenie gave a similiar fatwa for his followers to rise up against the coalition, it would be obligatory on them to do so. and you would be overwhelmed by the sheer response.
If you dont understand how the iranian theocracy works then i suggest you carry on reading some more…infact alot more. im not basing my views on mere fantasy, but on the likely scenario based on recent history and the existing shia theocracy system itself. So Im sorry if its upsets you so much for telling it like it is, but for some one who likes to think himself as some great intellect, thats a very ignorant attitude you seem to have…
I am not argung that anyone has declared war, nor that it is wise. The US has held these same exercises in the Gulf for decades. It is only recently that Iran has declared itself a Regional superpower.
Let's not assume that we know anything about Iran. The younger generation really likes the US, despite their recent Nationalist bent. The middle class is experienceing a terrible economy, and the middle class has led every revolution in Iran. Almost every revolution in Iran has taken place because some despot gets carried away, building up the military to fight imaginary enemies, while the middle class suffers.
My real point here is that we are entering a window where the chance of conflict may increase exponentially. The table is set and the cards are dealt. I don't think there is any cosmic Bush plan to foment a crisis. On the other hand if Iran chooses a crisis, a few days post election is good timeing from a political standpoint. Iran has made a great show of their militray prowess, and new "domestic" weapons. They are pretty puffed up over their nuclear program and the recent Hezbullah success. My observation is that the timing seems to converging on the opportunity for a conflict.
when countries start having 'visions' of how an entire region should be, then situations like iraq are inevitable. pumping so much weaponary into israel is another recipe for disaster. what is the US plan? they used saddam to war with iran, gave saddam permission to invade kuwait. IT ALL STINKS
surely working with iran and ALL other countries for the past 50+ years would have been better for the whole world. this would have also allowed progress in many of these countries to becoming 'friendly' to US policy and people. instead the enforceing of a negative/unfair policy just makes the world more dangerous tommorrow. ie today, with Eisenhower parked up, waiting and watching fresh youtube videos of shining examples of why you shouldnt meddle with fragile politics of another country.
the iranians have a need for defence, power and advancement. with iran already being signed upto the NPT, surely that should be enforced. signing the NPT means they can for civilian purposes build nucleur power plants. the highly enriched weapon grade uranium can be regulated without forceing iran to end its entire nucleur operation through the UN for the purpose of non proliferation and not because america has never liked them.
seminole: dont talk of fairness with all this going on, you dont understand the meaning of it
Yeah, I get how the government works :yukh: That’s why the best hope for the people of Iran and the rest of the world is that their terrorist-wrapped-in-ayatollah-robed government will be taken down. BTW, I never claimed to be some great intellect, but I’m not moderator of a World Affairs board with the ignorant *I love Iran because they are Muslims and stand up to the US even though they oppress their people, export terrorism and are on the verge of sending the world into eternal chaos with a nuclear bomb *point of view.
This makes more sense: I-love-America-because-it-is-freedom-loving-even-though-it-supports-terrorism-and-bombs-innocent-children-and-are-on-the-verge-of-sending-the -world-into-eternal-chaos-with-a-nuclear-bomb .
really? so explain what you meant by ‘confusing the government policies and fatwas’? It seems to have stuck like thorn in your throat.
I agree whole heartedly with the bold part, the rest (underlined) you just seem to have made up. God forbid i claim such things that i dont agree with. They’re such shallow and pathetic views you’re accusing me of.
I agree whole heartedly with the bold part, the rest (underlined) you just seem to have made up. God forbid i claim such things that i dont agree with. They're such shallow and pathetic views you're accusing me of.
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Ignorant people like Seminole thrive on falsely accusing others.
Maybe she is that kind of woman, one who doesn't mind that a man makes a law forcing her to cover up her head while a man doesnt have to. Lot's of women are submissive to men and their bidding, just because she might be that kind of woman doesn't mean the men aren't being oppressive.