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^ What is sharp tongues? care to elaborate?
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nick names for everyone, they are teasing and say anything without thinking! i think kids who grow up in the west just arent used to it. In pakistan its completely normal!
im not saying tis good or bad i think thats just the way it is.
If i could settle in pakistan i would love to, but i know i will just be eaten alive by society.
really? I dont know much about UK, but US/Canada …far worst than what Pakistan is in this department. you know kids commit suicide (in worst of cases) here coz they cant take the bullying any more? Although I have to agree that kids in Pakistani schools are trying to catch up specially at school which are more westernized and beacon house (where you went) is one of it.
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We need good doctors in Pakistan.
Good decision, ..... you must move, it's time to pay back to your country.
But before moving, open an savings account in some USA bank and put some money for emergency proposes. Lets say you have to come back after a year.. so their should be well 15/25 thousands $.. but again the savings should be according to your living style.
1.5 lac, is a good starting point, you can have a nice middle-class living if you already own a place.
Good Luck.. !
why would you want to give up life in US for karachi? unless your having serious probs in US or are so unhappy there.
there are too many cons to moving back to pakistan. i go to karachi every year for hols. everything about that city is a dump! the nightmare traffic, loadshedding, violence are just a few to name. one of my cousins who is a doc' moved to karachi from london for the same reasons you did eg to teach their kids about their home country etc. both her and hubby are docs. they hated their lifestyle so much, after few months they packed up and came back to london.
care to explain, why you even bother to go their once a year?
really? I dont know much about UK, but US/Canada ....far worst than what Pakistan is in this department. you know kids commit suicide (in worst of cases) here coz they cant take the bullying any more? Although I have to agree that kids in Pakistani schools are trying to catch up specially at school which are more westernized and beacon house (where you went) is one of it.
Thats what im saying...that the kids in pakistan seem to be able to cope better with name calling and teasing which happens on a regular basis i see it now when i go back amongst my little cousins...but the kids in pakistan seem to be strong as in everyone is the same....its dog eat dog.
in the uk there is bullying and people get very very affected by it but what im saying is that i think a level of bullying happens alot in pakistan but its not seen as 'bullying' there...its just what kids are like.
Thats what im saying...that the kids in pakistan seem to be able to cope better with name calling and teasing which happens on a regular basis i see it now when i go back amongst my little cousins...but the kids in pakistan seem to be strong as in everyone is the same....its dog eat dog.
in the uk there is bullying and people get very very affected by it but what im saying is that i think a level of bullying happens alot in pakistan but its not seen as 'bullying' there...its just what kids are like.
ditto
Thats what im saying...that the kids in pakistan seem to be able to cope better with name calling and teasing which happens on a regular basis i see it now when i go back amongst my little cousins...but the kids in pakistan seem to be strong as in everyone is the same....its dog eat dog.
in the uk there is bullying and people get very very affected by it but what im saying is that i think a level of bullying happens alot in pakistan but its not seen as 'bullying' there...its just what kids are like.
The kids in pak. are like anywhere else, no one takes name calling better . Idk u must be talking about govt. schools or something...I was in lahore beaconhouse & there was no such bullying/name calling...after all its the top notch school (don't know about karachi tho)
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anya did you grow up in pakistan?
I went to beacon house myself in karachi for a year, and i know i really struggled to fit in because i was different...i didnt understand the system and it took me a long time to fit in to the society i just wasnt street wise enough for pakistan standards.
Even now when i go back i stuggle sometimes with the way people just say anything to anyone without thinking and the how sharp the kids are.
Even my dad says when he was in university there everyone used to constantly tease and name call but its just standard there!
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ill give u an example...first day of school...in pakistan they teach you write on a 4 line grid type of thing...in the uk they dont, so i didnt know what i was doing and no one explained this to me...the kids were like haha look at her shes from the uk and cant write. I know here that wouldnt really happen the teacher would make an extra effort to help and someone will be always there to help.
In p.t. didnt know any of the rules the games no one told me anything at all and they just all stood and laughed at me not understanding what was going on.
Maybe they picked on me because i was from the u.k. and so different or maybe i was just extra sensitive.
Im jst giving a personal experience and opinion. I dont mean to offend.
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I wonder why its so hard for some people to accept that negative things exist in Pakistani society, as well as other societies.
anya did you grow up in pakistan?
I went to beacon house myself in karachi for a year, and i know i really struggled to fit in because i was different...i didnt understand the system and it took me a long time to fit in to the society i just wasnt street wise enough for pakistan standards.
Even now when i go back i stuggle sometimes with the way people just say anything to anyone without thinking and the how sharp the kids are.
Even my dad says when he was in university there everyone used to constantly tease and name call but its just standard there!
nopes!! i went there for some time
had a few girls from UK in my class......it looked all good
hmmm....maybe is it a difference of cities then?? coz even now when i visit karachi/lhr the people are different...can't really put in words here
no offence taken yar...sorry you had a bad exerience
I wonder why its so hard for some people to accept that negative things exist in Pakistani society, as well as other societies.
Yup! we should not generalize anything.
There is good & bad in everything and thats where personal experiences come in......if someone had a good experience somewhere they'll like the place more than others & vice versa
Well I am not moving back to Pakistan because of money or any materialistic things. I am at a stage in my life where I think more in terms of other things. We are doing well here money or otherwise. I have no problem here whatsoever. However, I think there are thousands of so called doctors (like I am) here in US. If I leave hundreds more better ones will come and replace me. But, I think I am needed and can make a difference back home. I can give back so much in terms of my training, skills and experience.
However, I am not denying that I am terrified, confused and unsure about my move.** I think that it will be a good move for my kids they will be closer to nana, nani, dada dadi etc etc. I will also be able to live closer to my family but, I know its not going to be a jolly good ride.**
Everyone I talk to thinks that I am crazy that I am willing to give up my life here for Pakistan. Sigh may be I am crazy. Who knows I may abandon my plans.
Home is where your heart is....People who thinks about their previous generations dont have to worry about their future generations.....Pakistan needs people like you.
People might say Karachi is filthy, the truth is , yes, it is filthy, but that filth which is visible to eyes can be cleaned easily with a broom, ...but what about the filth in the western society that is not visible thru the naked eye.....you cannot clean that with a broom
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Thanks everyone for all the constructive suggestions, criticism, inputs and everything else. I agree with most of the things being said in this forum.
I am thinking about moving back to Pakistan, Karachi to be precise. I have been offered a very good job with a decent salary (more than 1.5 lakh). Do you guys think its a good idea? I want my kids to know about Pakistan and our culture. We are US citizens. I have lived in Karachi when I was in high school and have been visiting every year. However, I have no experience of living there. Any suggestions, inputs, feedback?
If you are moving in from outside, that means you have decent experience. I am not sure about your job but 1.5 Lakhs is not enough if you want to maintain a similar life style in Karachi (like you had un US). A house in defense will not cost less than 80K/month and then expensive fuel, expensive electricity, expensive gas, expensive education will drain the heck out of you. Think twice.
why would you want to give up life in US for karachi? unless your having serious probs in US or are so unhappy there.
there are too many cons to moving back to pakistan. i go to karachi every year for hols. everything about that city is a dump! the nightmare traffic, loadshedding, violence are just a few to name. one of my cousins who is a doc' moved to karachi from london for the same reasons you did eg to teach their kids about their home country etc. both her and hubby are docs. they hated their lifestyle so much, after few months they packed up and came back to london.
Then why do you go that dump Karachi every year? You can try as hard as you want to become an American/Canadian etc but in the eyes of the "white people" you will always be a paki.
don't come, its horrible here now. Pakistan is no longer the land we loved and knew. Its terrifying to even commute to work because you never know what will happen. maybe when your kids have grown up, you could move back, like my prof. did, but before that, Stay away!
x 1000,000
There's much more to be lost here than to be gained - do not come back.
and we sure are putting these doctors to good use here…
have you heard of the recent wave of target killings of doctors that has started again…