So Mr. Firenze, then enlighten us. What is the motive behind invading Libya? Human rights violations?
In 2003 EU published a framework report to enhanced their sphere of influence (democracy, secularism, resources) in their immediate vicinity. The threats they mentioned were Egypt, Libya, Morocco & Tunisia. It was emphasized to provide material support to democracy movements in these countries. As per my knowledge, everything is happening according to plan :)
In 2003 EU published a framework report to enhanced their sphere of influence (democracy, secularism,** resources**) in their immediate vicinity. The threats they mentioned were Egypt, Libya, Morocco & Tunisia. It was emphasized to provide material support to democracy movements in these countries. As per my knowledge, everything is happening according to plan :)
As per recent alarming report in EU, they have to do something to secure the constant supply of minerals or else they are doomed. This is the REAL reason for invading Libya, every other excuse is just a load of cr@p!
But after reading your posts, one gets the impression that you are pretty fine and even supporting the "spread democracy, secularism" bull$hit by powerful countries to the weaker ones. Any particular reasons for that?
Any chance that you are waiting for the result for your pending citizenship application and hoping doing this will enhance your chances? Just curious.
As per recent alarming report in EU, they have to do something to secure the constant supply of minerals or else they are doomed. This is the REAL reason for invading Libya, every other excuse is just a load of cr@p!
But after reading your posts, one gets the impression that you are pretty fine and even supporting the "spread democracy, secularism" bull$hit by powerful countries to the weaker ones. Any particular reasons for that?
Any chance that you are waiting for the result for your pending citizenship application and hoping doing this will enhance your chances? Just curious.
have it by birth.
Actually i am supporting the fall of all the tyrants & losers like Gadahfi (don't forget Saudi monarchs). Certainly if democracy prevails in return, i am all in :)
Actually i am supporting the fall of all the tyrants & losers like Gadahfi (don't forget Saudi monarchs). Certainly if democracy prevails in return, i am all in :)
So by this logic, will you support military invasion of China as well? Or these cheap bullies you support are good only for "spreading" their democracy to countries with weaker (or no) military but with lot of minerals?
Guess it is the second.
PS. By the way, are your parents in Faisalabad safe? In one of your previous posts after the terrorist strike in Faisalabd you were quite worried about the city of your birth and rightly so.
West can’t attack China, they have balls unless so-called Muslim countries & Muslims.
i am thrilled someone is following me at such pace, yes certainly my parents are from Pakistan but not me. Certainly i worried about my place where i spend great time with my gangs,.. all the parties .. and late night shows in underground clubs.. :k:
I'm actually concerned about why so many people in this thread wanted the west to not intervene in Libya and allow the rebellion in the east of Libya, which is more conservative and Islamic in nature than Gaddafi's western stronghold. to be crushed mercilessly by his forces.
One would have thought that Pakistanis would support religious Muslims and want them to win, especially when prominent scholars and movements such as Yusuf Al Qaradawi and the Muslim Bortherhood have blessed foreign intervention in Libya.
This is only for the past few months that we’ve been hearing the news against Qaddafi and I’m just not ready to believe that Qaddafi has no support in Libya.
Besides, America, Britain and France are the same countries who invaded Iraq and killed millions of civilians so if anyone thinks that this intervention is solely for humanitarian purpose, they are kidding themselves.
why is it that many of you seem fine with USA cleaning up your part of the world from terrorists but when they try to help another country, in this case Libya, you have objections? Qadafi has turned his mercenary army on the civilians
why is it that many of you seem fine with USA cleaning up your part of the world from terrorists but when they try to help another country, in this case Libya, you have objections? Qadafi has turned his mercenary army on the civilians
Just like India has done in Kashmir, so probably we should ask USA to "clean up" Indian army first.
Just like India has done in Kashmir, so probably we should ask USA to "clean up" Indian army first.
Hope you will support that!?
Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about. The cleanup only happens where such abuse and terror exist - such as Libya, such as Pakistan (oops!) - pls read at least the Urdu press!
کچھ تجزيہ نگار کے ليے يہ بہت سہل ہے کہ امريکہ اور بين لاقوامی برادری کی جانب سے ليبا کے لوگوں کو قدافی کے فوجی حملوں سے بچانے کے ليے کی جانے والی کوششوں پر شديد تنقید بھی کرتے ہيں اور اپنے يک طرفہ جذبات کا اظہار بھی کرتے ہیں۔
امریکہ لیبیا پر قبضہ نہیں کرنا چاہتا اور نہ ہی زمینی فوج تعینات نہیں کرے گا جيسا کہ يہاں پر بہت لوگ دعوی کر رہے ہیں۔
حقيقت يہ ہے کہ امريکہ يہ اقدامات دیگر اتحاديوں کے ساتھ اقوام متحدہ کی سلامتی کونسل کی طرف سے اُس قرارداد (1973) کی منظوری کے بعد اٹھا رہا ہے جس ميں لیبیا میں عام شہریوں پرلیبیا کی فوج کے حملوں کو روکنے کے لیےضروری کارروائی کی اجازت دی گئی ہے ۔
بين لاقوامی برادری نے لیبیا کے رہنما معمر قذافی کو موقع فراہم کيا تھا کہ وہ اپنے شہریوں پر حملے کرنا بند کر ے۔ ليکن اس نے يہ موقع کھو ديا ۔ اس کی فورسز نے ظالمانہ کاروائياں جاری رکھیں۔ جس کی وجہ سے ليبيا کے لوگوں کو شديد خطرات کا سامنا ہے۔ اس لیے يہ اقدامات لیبیا کے عام شہریوں کی حفاظت کے بے حد ضروری ہیں۔