Re: Modesty gowns for female patients
Mady,
This gown is so useless. I agree with PCG here......... the designer of this gown tried to be oversmart but in fact he proved him/herself to be a stupid....
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^^
If you look at your original post, you’ll see why it’s not a stupid idea.
This gown is intended for those who don’t “throw it away” - the ones who aspire to preserving their modesty at all times.
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I agree with mad_scientist. These things aren’t churned out and thrown for use just like that. Quite a lot of research goes into it. All sorts of aspects are taken into account prior to bringing them into use.
It might look silly to us, but if the hospital and patients are okay with it, then who are we to mock them?
Who exactly has given you the right to slander Muslim women and especially those who observe hijab? Do you know of any personal experience where women observe hijab inside the hospital, but throw it away the minute they step out of the hospital? Please speak for yourself and there’s no need to slander hijabis.
As for the comment about how this gown looks, it’s a shame Muslims would think of a gown in a certain way. It’s no surprise then the non-Muslims would think the same or much worse when our own folks are entertaining such thoughts about hijabis.
What has gone with the British Muslims? At least they hold their faith dear to them. In addition, kudos to the British hospitals who have gone to such an extent to accommodate their Muslim patients. It’s such a shame however; that we have our own Muslims making fun of those who wish to strictly abide by a certain Islamic dress code.
Despicable! 
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Forget it Sadiyah. Muslims like us, Canada/British/American, everything we do is wrong and degrading to Islam. After all, our children will be the ones thrwoing Quran in the toilet 
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whatever you say, it is extreemly impractical....
Ahem, let me answer a little more serious post....
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Despite many hospitals adopting it enthusiastically, you see it as impractical?
It may be impractical to you; however, clearly, medical professionals do not view it as such.
And on medical matters, I think the actions of hospitals speak louder than your views on a web forum.
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It may be impractical to you; however, clearly, medical professionals do not view it as such.
And on medical matters, I think the actions of hospitals speak louder than your views on a web forum.
Stop it here...
I have not given my reason behind the "Impracticality" but I'll
So would you pleae wait than attacking me.....
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Let me bust this bubble of “research” right here for you.
In that case close this discussion forum, if there is no use in giving opinion.
For hospitals it doesn’t matter at all since they would do what is needed to do
Now hold your horses.
You took it personally, and that your poor observation. I am not talking about taking or not taking hijb or why or why not a hijab be taken…
You have not read my post completely and trying to ride on me.
Nowhere I said I am against Hijab. Nowhere I said why are they wearing it?
You only highlighted the part which would help you make an argument against me, read me full sentences…
What is the purpose of this gown?
1) To wear this gown “Hijab” as one wears regular Hijab outside the hospital as a substitute within the hospital? I don’t think a hospital would ever restrict someone from wearing a regular hijab or would find any problem with any kind of hijab a woman wears. Then what is the purpose of this hilarious dress?
2) To wear this gown to make things more hijabi at the points of exposure? How does this gown give an extra hijab for a hijabi lady who is to come to the hospital?
3) This color is the insignia of OR (for your information Opration Room) and is used for the uniform used by surgeons and others present in the OR called SCRUBs.
4) Never have I seen any patient wearing this color examination gown. What is the purpose?
5) In the OR the patient is completely naked in front of 10-15 staff members, how does this clown dress help there?
6) Even for a minor general physical examination (GPE) the patient goes through uncomfortable exposure, do you want me to elaborate on that in this forum to prove you wrong? You don’t care to see how this does not make a difference yet willing to chastise me on making a point. Not your fault, I am among ignorants.
7) What about minor surgical procedure (Inpatient and outpatient) where patient has to get exposed doesn’t matter what is she wearing? The most common example is the (DRE) digital rectal exam, without which the abdominal exam is INCOMPLETE and the abdominal examination where the exposure is upto mid thighs. Who in the whole world will manage with this “hijabi dress”
How these special dresses help to protect patient from observing modesty in a clinical situation/encounter? As I said earlier, a simple modest dress a woman wears outside the hospital including the regular hijab would suffice inside hospital instead of this joker’s dress… when in both cases the patient will go through the same treatment……
Read above and clarify your detracked mind
I have given you enough reasoning to think over it once again.
Disgusting
And pardon my language
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Lahore981, to the best of my knowledge, patients who are admitted don't always wear the clothes they wear on the streets. Again, these gowns are not designed or thrown in for use just for the heck of it. Much research goes into it and various aspects are kept in mind. I don't see any doctors or other staff complaining. I don't see the patients complaining.
Yes, one would have to be exposed during certain tests and the like. I believe someone already mentioned it saves one from being exposed while walking down the hallway or whatever the case happens to be.
I'm sure there are many out there would love to embrace it irregardless of how horrendous it might appear to you.
Also, you did not only point out the fact that you find the gown abhorrent, but you stated how Muslim women think of observing hijab at certain times and discard it at others. Those who take it seriously are not about discarding it or wearing it for their own whims and desires. I found your comment below very insulting to those who abide by the strict Islamic dress code.
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In the hospitals, Muslims think of observing Hijab while on other occasions, they throw it away.
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How many hijabis or niqaabis are you aware of you wear it at hospitals and discard it outside?
In addition, do you have any idea how difficult it is at times to cover oneself as per the Islamic requirements? Balancing hijaab isn't always the easiest task with different types of clothing.
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Completely agree with PCG and Lahore here. There is no need for this gown. In an emergency, it will only hinder the doctor in helping the patient by covering their face where they can’t even see if the patient is breathing or not. When saving someone's life, there are much more important things to worry about then clothes. In most emergency situations, medical personal will simply cut open your clothes in front of everybody. And if you are roaming around the hospital, you can wear your own hijab.
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lahore dude, who r u to judge people, how do u know that they are not wearing them outside hospital...huh? U know them? No, then keep quiet. Terrorist gown? I'm sure if ur mom wud wear it u would report her to the authorities for being a suicide bomber right, n u shud know that when it comes to medical things, woman can be checked out by male doctor, it shud be preferably female doctor, but it doesnt matter too much.
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What if it's not interfering? I'm sure they'd take it off or go with something more casual if there's a strong need for it.
I just find it insulting to those who wish to wear such a gown.
that just doesnt happen here in the west....typically in emergency cases you get whoever is available at that time. so what do u do then? wait around for a female doctor?
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when the condition is stable, or not an emergency then can a woman request a female doctor or is that a little extreme?
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what a scum bucket response!!
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Furthermore, for situations where in an emergency, you need to access the patient's body immediately, this gown is not practical. And does it really matter, since everyone accedes that if there is only a male doctor on call, then he's got not choice but to see her body? Doctors are trained to set aside their personal selves to treat a patient.
If the female patient wants to walk around outside her room, she can very well have her own hijab with her. Wearing a green niqab in this manner is simply RIDICULOUS and slightly abnormal. Why not wear your own hijab? And not all women wear niqabs. Some suffice with a hijab.
I just think this is totally unnecessary. As if people don't have other things to worry about.
i agree completely...i mentioned that in my previous post as well. Why not just wear a long gown/robe with a hijab and/or niqaab of your own. patients ARE allowed to wear robs over their hospital gowns.
However we should be happy that they took into consideration the modesty issue and did something about it rather then criticize it. Whats it to us anyway....those that want to wear it can and those that dont can pass on it.
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of course you can request all you want...i know i would. however the point is the gown is going to come off either way.
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wow, thats a good response....Lahore guy said that it was a terrorist gown? So hes correct? OK...He said that all the woman who would request such things don't wear them outside hospital...can sum1 actually say that..I mean come on...women who don't care in reality y would they in the hospital? Instead of the real scum bucket statement, ur attacking my rebuttal of that statement. Go make some threads in life1 or is it cafe these days.
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you are trying hard to disprove something that is not even there. the original argument is that this dress, (not a gown, is it a gown to you? - a pseudo-loose shirt, hijab & pj colored as scrubs)... is ridiculous.
more over, the issue is not this that the accommodation is made in a non Muslim country to wear it while in medical care, at a hospital.
the issue is that this is not a proper attire.
medically it is impractical. i would say, when someone is in the ER, or OR, or in ICU, on the table or in chair to give birth to a baby, this is not to be worn in the name of being an observer of pardha.
u hear me!
at this point, i wont even go in the explanation that it does look like a nikab worn over to hide something & in the political air in which Muslims are bearing the brunt these days, this is the last thing we want to adapt, esp. if it is cut out for us, in the name of 'accommodating' our pardah needs as concerned over privacy or modesty. it does look like some "suspicious" looking design of a dress, matched to suit the colors in the hospital and the cuts of a dress mentioned above.
i tell u , it does not even look modest.
besides, really, Afridi, would you like to wear it????
dushi
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i understand what u r saying, y don't u look at what i was responding too, instead of just saying that my comment is a scum bucket response...n im not a woman so last question isnt even applicable.
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Out of curiosity, would such a dress have been designed if it were really an impediment at the hospital?