Mob mentality..

fraudia, diablo, both of you missed the point of my post, since you're reasonably intelligent people, i must've misstated it. anyhoo, what i meant to define by the anti-mob crowd are ostentatiously different people who joyously cast others as photocopies of specific stereotypes, usually ending up with the same perspectives on people, tastes, appearance etcetera, even if the conformity is unintentional.

ask yourself if the fact that you dont fit in any of these photocopies makes you like yourself more. ask yourself if you might not be all the more inclined to pigeonhole people all the more because of that.

theres precious little new under the sun. more likely than not, some shade of you has been around. its not worth your while focusing on the originality of others.

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fraudia, diablo, both of you missed the point of my post, since you're reasonably intelligent people, i must've misstated it. anyhoo, what i meant to define by the anti-mob crowd are ostentatiously different people who joyously cast others as photocopies of specific stereotypes, usually ending up with the same perspectives on people, tastes, appearance etcetera, even if the conformity is unintentional.

ask yourself if the fact that you dont fit in any of these photocopies makes you like yourself more. ask yourself if you might not be all the more inclined to pigeonhole people all the more because of that.

theres precious little new under the sun. more likely than not, some shade of you has been around. its not worth your while focusing on the originality of others.
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Ravage, i did not miss your point, I just stated an example of people who in the zeal to be be non-conformists, conform to their own lil clique..

There is precious little new, but its the combinations and permutations of all the possible perspectives, interests, approaches, inclinations etc that we pick to fit outown personalities. Does it mean that there is no one else that is like one, no..but does it mean that the person is marhcing to the beat of his/her own drum is what is important. Maybe what one really likes is something everyone is doing..and one's choices of what activities, interests, hobbies one picks up are limited by what one has been exposed to, however it is uncanny and inexplicible that so many people would be excited about teh same thing, or follow the same trend.

As far as your last statement goes..i only half agree with it, whereas it is not worth my time to focus on people's originality or lack thereof, I do have to assess them, because ppl who are like sheep in a herd, and follow popular choices may not be makign teh right choices at all times. In past I have not hired people because they were saying teh things they were coached to, same answers..same outlook. It was unnatural, fake, very tried and practised. so there is a time and aplace to figure out if the person you are interacting with is into keeping up with the joneses, or being a xerox copy..or

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Ravage, i did not miss your point, I just stated an example of people who in the zeal to be be non-conformists, conform to their own lil clique..

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i was nevertheless grasping at a seperate group of people. those who dont cater to outer mobs, but their inner audience, performing and prancing on the grand stage of nobody-but-I . yes, its better to be a showman for meum than tuum, but showmanry is only showmanry. all this self indulgent glorification of your individualness is merely prepping up the audience for yet another blazing display of uniqueness, be it when you note that you're different from others this way, that way, this way, this way, or that way.

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There is precious little new, but its the combinations and permutations of all the possible perspectives, interests, approaches, inclinations etc that we pick to fit outown personalities. Does it mean that there is no one else that is like one, no..but does it mean that the person is marhcing to the beat of his/her own drum is what is important.

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the sentiment remains the same, non? your drum or your friends, you're the one marching to it. you're the creature of the beat, be it your own or your friends. and if so, if people find their identity in their selves or their social circle, who's to say which is better?

and heres the killer: the audience and its taste doesnt even vary much across equals in education, background, etc.. so for all your showmanry, for all the repeated proclamations to the cheering masses in your head, your show isnt so different after all.

whats all the cheering for then?

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As far as your last statement goes..i only half agree with it, whereas it is not worth my time to focus on people's originality or lack thereof, I do have to assess them, because ppl who are like sheep in a herd, and follow popular choices may not be makign teh right choices at all times. In past I have not hired people because they were saying teh things they were coached to, same answers..same outlook. It was unnatural, fake, very tried and practised. so there is a time and aplace to figure out if the person you are interacting with is into keeping up with the joneses, or being a xerox copy..or
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and oddly enough, that might be out of a textbook of hiring practices for managers.

this also exists amongst japs, koreans, chinese etc… seen em ? all have the same hair cut, same hair shade, same style of clothing… hell it even gets hard to differentiate between the gals and the guyz :rolleyes:

ravage

so the basic point is intent here. whether one is different as an individual because thats the way the person is, or because they are doing this to satisfy a need to be different.

fraudia.

true. and my hypothesis is that one has the tendency to find individuality in minutiae.. make a god of it when one has the desire to find oneself different, which in my opinion, is no more or less reprehensible from the desire to find oneself fitting in.

desire motivates intent, and thereby, such people are likely to intentionally act different to please their inner critics.