lets stop for a moment.....
how can you say with 100 % surity that there were really "millitants"
can black cat commandos of Reseaech and Anaylisis Wing (RAW) dressed in shalwar qameez cannot do this...as they did when bill clinton came india 5 6 years ago and killed 35 hindus....
millitants time and again said that thier fight is with indian forces...no common hindu workers and common hindhu men...even islam does not allow to fight with man having no arms.....
Conspiracy theory ki bhi ek hadh hoti hai....
You know after 9/11 attacks in US, many "learned" Muslims started blaming Mossad, CIA and Israel-America for attack on their own people and the reason given was that satan America wanted to malign Muslim "image" so they killed their own people.
I mean, just think...President authorizing CIA to plot a plan and kill thousands of Americans and such plans are still unknown to American Congress or no CIA official so far dared to open mouth???...Conspiracy theories are like this.
There is a light years difference between RAW and ISI..
RAW is fully answerable to parliament through Prime Minister and his cabinet and NOT to any military general.
Humans fail to see their own bigotry while they keep blaming the others.
Muslims of Gujrat were also living alongside Hindus for centuries, what did you do to them?
Why are the muslims most deprived community in India, even by government's own reports.
Muslims of Bomaby were also living alongside Hindus for centuries what did you do to them?
So what is the end result of these riots...do you know any Muslim in Gujarat ??
Are they displaced from Gujarat and shifted to your house near Lahore or Karachi like Kashmir Pundits left their homeland??
Have you been in Bombay??...are they still not living alongside Hindus?? So what is end result of riots?? and who spreads them?
you know nothing about riots and how they start...all you know is some news reports in Daily Jung...keep reading and try to justify plight of Kashmiri Pundits is due to some communal riots in far away India...huh.
I mean, just think...President authorizing CIA to plot a plan and kill thousands of Americans and such plans are still unknown to American Congress or no CIA official so far dared to open mouth???...Conspiracy theories are like this.
not see impossible for a man who has just a little touch of jewish histoy and conspracies of 3000 years... i think no need to telll that WW1 and WW2 were alsoinitiated by jews taht why hitlet started of genocde of jews ...not muslims...!!!!!!!
ISI also answerable to PM but MI to General ......
Muslims of Gujrat were also living alongside Hindus for centuries, what did you do to them?
Why are the muslims most deprived community in India, even by government's own reports.
Muslims of Bomaby were also living alongside Hindus for centuries what did you do to them?
Why you do not start the topic from Godhra when you talk of Gujarat or why you do not tell us who started riots in Bombay?
And 'the muslims most deprived community in India'.....whose fault is this? Does Indian system ask Muslims not to go to school? Does Indian system ask them to continue living in middle centuries?
what Neerander modi killed his own 60 hindus coming from ahmedabad in ram mandar procession cremony in sabar mati express as proved in SC of india..pre-planned list of great merchants of ahmedabad ....given to RSS ghundas and balwai..police ..provincial ministers like patel was there in police opekration room to control all riots...and as a result the "Butche of Gujrat" ..the qasai of gujrat is now again the CM of gujrat...when 40 40 old neihgbours balat kar o
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After a few riots in some parts of India, do these Muslims migrated to Paksitan or any other part of India?
Thing is, hypocrites always pinpoint a riot here and there, but fail to understand that when there are so many communities and religious beliefs living together that too in a third world country like ours, riots are unavoidable.
Even radical Wahhabi cult followers of Sunni attack Shia's in Pakistan. Shia's are still vulnerable to attack when they carry out a religious procession of Imam Hussein's martyrdom in accordance with their belief.
BUT such incidences even in Pakistan are controlled by law and order making authorities in due time....MOST IMPORTANT Shiites are still very much living in their motherland.
Now coming back to topic...it's about minority Hindus and most importantly those Kashmiri Pundits without whom Kashmir is incomplete...sadly unlike all other hyped riots etc. in India, these Kashmiris have to leave their beloved motherland and live in other part of India like a refugee.
That is the difference between riot and plight of Kashmiri Pundits.
Riots cannot and in no way are related with kashmiri Pundits and their displacement...
so please do not hijack the therad by bringing in riots and Indian Hindu-Muslim relation.
these two have been brought up before and have threads of there own in which these topics have been discussed in length especially why exactly a precentage of the muslims are the most disadvantaged in India.
Were they ALMOST ALL also tortured to death and pushed out of India into refugee camps so there can only be a Hindu state?
Can we please stay on the topic of Kashmir and the idea of independence?
“In 1946, when an uprising against the king got going, some Kashmiri freedom fighters had advocated the splitting up of the state along religious lines. If it had taken place then, maybe it would have worked.
But for this demand to be raised now would lead to, in my opinion, a second Partition.” Ishaq Khan(Professor at Kashmir University)
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After a few riots in some parts of India, do these Muslims migrated to Paksitan or any other part of India?
Thing is, hypocrites always pinpoint a riot here and there, but fail to understand that when there are so many communities and religious beliefs living together that too in a third world country like ours,** riots are unavoidable.**
When a freedom struggle ensues with a group of people oppressed under worst of army atrocities, such human rights abuses here and there are also unavodable.
When a freedom struggle ensues with a group of people oppressed under worst of army atrocities, such human rights abuses here and there are also unavodable.
So what's your conclusion??
You wanted to justify the riots in India are cause for displacement of Kashmiri-Pundits??...and you quoted a part of my postings which was just related to riots but never tried to justify the riots in fact.
I still wanted to know from learned Pakistanis like you that if anyone got displaced from riots like more than 4,00000 of Kashniri Pundits got displaced?
You can't call it a here and there incident....it's an incident which has thrown 4 hundred thousand kashmiris out of their motherland and can NEVER be compared with a riot in India to justify.
When a freedom struggle ensues with a group of people oppressed under worst of army atrocities, such human rights abuses here and there are also unavodable.
the Buddhist, Sikhs and Hindus in Kashmir don't want to secede from India and Kashmir belongs to them as much as it does to the Muslims.
Why is it that only the Muslims in Kashmir want to be independent now. If there was really that much unhappiness in 1989 and a strong need for freedom then almost every single person in Kashmir would've been in support of independence which was not the case at all. It was only a certain percentage of the Muslim population that wanted this and that too not all Muslims.
Did you even read carefully what I've written?? Do you consider what happened to the Kashmiri Pandits as a super-colossal human rights violation? Or are most acts labeled as human rights violations only when they happen to Kashmiri Muslims? I guess the Kashmir Pandits aren't human beings right.
I am NOT justifying anything. I am showing you your ill-intents and hatred. When riots are mentioned, you just say, “its unavoaidable”, when Pundits migrate its a grave human rights abuse.
I want to show to show you a mirror, i am not aware of the exact number of Kashmiri Pundits displaced but i am going to do a research on it and find out how true is this.
Did you even read carefully what I've written?? Do you consider what happened to the Kashmiri Pandits as a super-colossal human rights violation? Or are most acts labeled as human rights violations only when they happen to Kashmiri Muslims? I guess the Kashmir Pandits aren't human beings right.
"Young girls were now being raped systematically by entire (Indian) army units rather than by a single soldier as before. Girls are taken to soldier's camps and held naked in their tents for days on end. Many never return home....Women are strung up naked from trees and their breast lacerated with knives, as the (Indian) soldiers tell them that their breast will never give milk again to a newborn militant. Women are raped in front of their husbands and children, or paraded naked through villages and beaten on the breasts."
*(The Independent, September 18, 1990)
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These girls are not humans?
^That's going a bit too far, Iconoclast. You don't see me posting detailed descriptions of the methods used by the militants for torturing the pandits do you? Nobody disagrees that Kashmiri Muslims have died too so please stay away from coming down to such a low level of posting gory details. I can't bare it whether it concerns Kashmiri Muslims or Hindus.
Not all the people including the minorities in Kashmir want to be independent, bas! They shouldn't be forced out of their homes in Kashmir by psycho militants just so Kashmir could be an Islamic state.
a man can be lower to such a level...shameful......muslims respect even the girl and women of thier worst enemies....have ever heard something happeninh in sindh...what happened in gujrat.....40 40 years old neighbours ...balat kar thier neighbour's 8 or 9 years old bachiya who used to call them uncles....either they balat kar themselves or gave thier evidence to rioters who took them ut....20 or 25 at a time...took them in a steer ...where hundreds of rioters and balwai raising slogan...10 men came forward..they tore thier clothes...in front of thousads of people...mostlt from kobra nagar ..gandhi nagar etc.....ijtimai balat kar them in front of people ...these masoom 9 9 years old girls...whole mob is shouting...with joy....the beast now tearing thier body withir teeths.... gave wood pieces in thier private parts( i am myself shameful for writing this).... then more men from mob came and balat kar those all naked girls in fron of thousands of people....the girls were shouting...tumhai ram ka wasta..hanuman jee ka wasta hmai chor dho...but all beasts were laughing and jocking...then they put oil on them ...and then burnt them...in front of thousand of people ...police was standing aside watching all this...no action..theyalso enjowed this satanic scene.....the girls of8 9 16 15 years were shouting...thie bidies turned into black...and mob was shouting....Bolo ram ram...bolo ram ram ......
and this also happened hundreds of times on streets of naroda .baroda and ahmebad and other cities of gujrat....the qasai of gujrat monitored all this....no action..no human rights..for thses little masoom girls..even the worst human on the earth love little children...what was thier sin.....as proved in SC ...he himself burnt sabar mati bogi...pre-planned mansooba......
these masoom little girls..on the land of Gandhi jee...were burning......
Ya Khuda.....insaniat kai roop mai bhairiyai ..balkai shaitan bhi in bhayanak harkotay par sharma jai.....
