Re: Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
I've been calling this for years, gumbad-e-khizra has been in their sights for ages but I knew they wouldn't considering Muslims in every corner of the earth would protest.
But when they didn't care in 1925, why would they care now? lol
Re: Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam’s history
the article does not specifically mention that, but the roza will also come in the way of expansion and seeing their track record if they take it down I won’t be surprised.
Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
This is sad but expected. They can find space for faltoo clock towers, 5* hotels and malls right next to haram in mecca, but want to destroy or close historical and religious places with any religious significance. Bibi khadija as home is now a public toilet. The prophet saw birthplace is a library; shibe abi talib is permanently closed, jannat ul baqi is closed for women. Everything of significance has been marbled over and there is no sense of preservation what so ever.
Whats more, the roza itself is closed to women, they have blocked it with a white barrier, so you cannot see anything bar the roof. I just got back and it is infuriating to have to come so far only to be met with white plastics sheets simply due to thieir mindsets. Never mind the fact that they try to lecture you for an hour before hand on how to behave and think!!
Re: Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
I've been calling this for years, gumbad-e-khizra has been in their sights for ages but I knew they wouldn't considering Muslims in every corner of the earth would protest.
But when they didn't care in 1925, why would they care now? lol
Sir HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW case is completely different they can't take risk on that Sir
Re: Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
Securing their income after oil!
Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
They are not going to touch the dome and roza-e-mubarak.
Re: Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
The Problem is that expansion is needed and when expanding they will have demolish lot of buildings but they should spend more money and make room for those old historic places in new building because people are increasing every year which visit Makkah and Madinah
But the irony is that there is so much commercialization in mecca right up to haram shareef (my friend has been there) and everyone, except blind saudi family followers, see the uselessness of having a giant palace right next to the haram. I know that this is a medina thread, but things in mecca aren't going that well either. Saudi arabia is huge, so I don't get why they can't do all the commercialization outside the cities and then connect it with train or meglevs as they do have tons of money. It is not like the hajj is for free, so I think it is time that muslims all over the world have a say in what happens in mecca and medina. I would say that OIC would be that perfect body granted that the body is given some muscle to enforce decisions.
Muslim countries need to summon the saudi diplomats short of expelling them so the saudis get a clue.
Re: Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
^ well said, but who can explain this to the "khadimain".
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Re: Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam’s history
The Saudis are bulldozing Islam’s heritage. Why the silence from the Muslim world? – Telegraph Blogs
*From Saturday’s Daily Telegraph
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**Imagine that the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem – the traditional site of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus – has been taken over by Cromwellian Puritans. The new owners of the shrine plan to send bulldozers in, replacing the old church with a monstrous building resembling a concrete spaceship. This is so pilgrims can pray without being distracted by “superstitious” icons. Also, the Old City will be buried under hotels that make Vegas look like Venice.
It wouldn’t happen, would it? Christians would fight to the death to preserve Jerusalem. So would Jews and Muslims. And, for once, they’d have the support of secular politicians and scholars, horrified by the prospect of an act of cultural vandalism unprecedented in modern times.
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**Unprecedented until now, that is. The long-cherished ambition of Saudi Arabia’s ruling Wahhabi sect to smash up the ancient buildings of Mecca and Medina is nearing fruition.
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In Mecca, the house of one of Mohammed’s wives has been demolished to make space for public lavatories. His birthplace may disappear, too, as part of King Abdullah’s scheme to complement the skyscrapers and shopping malls with a Grand Mosque fashioned from the same materials as a multi-storey car park in Wolverhampton.
**As for Islam’s second holiest place, the city of Medina, a recent article by Jerome Taylor in the Independent revealed a megalomaniac plan to pull down three 7th-century mosques. Taylor added: “Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating.”
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**Only a small minority of the world’s billion Muslims are Wahhabis, despite the tens of billions of petrodollars spent by the Saudis propagating their creed. (Bosnia, for example, is now littered with Saudi-style mosques, replacing the graceful Ottoman architecture that Wahhabis detest.) Many pilgrims to Mecca are revolted by the marriage of Puritanism and greed they find there. Yet protests are scattered and muted. Why?
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One answer is that the House of Saud, though widely hated, is also feared: its wealth and terrorist connections make it unlikely that, say, a Pakistani politician would speak openly about the desecration of the Hajj.
The West can hardly complain about such gutlessness: this year’s Hajj exhibition at the British Museum was creepily sanitised – no mention of bulldozers or the 2,000ft clock tower built right next to the Kaaba, the black cube-shaped building that is the centrepiece of Islamic devotions.
**But what sticks in the craw is the hypocrisy of Muslims who throw a fit if Israeli archaeologists carry out non-intrusive work underneath the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, “Islam’s third holiest place”, as we’re constantly reminded. Such anger would be more convincing if the first and second holy sites weren’t being ploughed up by a police state. Likewise, are cartoons of Mohammed really more offensive than reducing the remains of his life to rubble?
As one Middle East expert put it to me: “Jews disturbing the Dome of the Rock fits into an anti-Western narrative, so Muslims can cope with that. The Saudi destruction of Mecca doesn’t fit into that narrative, and so there’s virtual silence.” Something worth bearing in mind, perhaps, when you wonder why the murder of Muslims by Muslims in Darfur or Syria provokes only limited outrage in the Islamic world.**
Re: Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
Latest will be masjid ghamama and Saqeefa banu saeedah. :(
This may be off topic, but Saqeefa banu saeedah reminds me of a particular incident that took place right after the death of the HOLY PROPHET. Plz someone tell me whether the place still exists with the same history attached to it????