Actually Fraudiya, this thread is stupid.
The question is “what is the value of an MBA person, whether male or female?” People who ask stupid questions like these will never break top 100 forget HBS and Kellog. ![]()
Actually Fraudiya, this thread is stupid.
The question is “what is the value of an MBA person, whether male or female?” People who ask stupid questions like these will never break top 100 forget HBS and Kellog. ![]()
well i think i see a little bit of a reason behind the gender question, because in some parts of desi society, there are still very strong views of what type of fields someone can go into. These impressions vary but are not unique to desis, e.g. male nurses in US.
so i think from a professional basis, the point is moot. but is someone is looking at it culturally, it may have an impact.
But I agree, that part of the question is rather vague and its only my assumption about what the intent there was.
so, i think I will bail until there is a clarification what is being asked.
Fraudz, my intention of asking this question does in fact concern the cultural aspect, which you elaborated on...therefore, "stupid" people like Chaltahai must learn to keep their traps shut or not post on my threads at all!
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Point being that even if you are not from a top 20 MBA program, but still a good MBA program, and have the network and the ability you will do well. better than pre-MBA.
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I think we agree on our points then. :)
If a turd who can’t spell properly can get into HBS…then why not…![]()
keep the personal comments out please.
U of Chicago? Yes, it is good, but by no means is it a given that it is even in Top 5. ![]()
Kareem
U if Chicago is ranked number 2 in the country, ..behind kellogg which is #1 thsi year. The rankings change year to year but from what I know Chicago's MBA program has been in the top 10 and top 20 more often than not.
Kareem: U of Chicago is perhaps the number one school for Finance. It has been that way for a very long time.
If I want to run a trading desk, I go to Chicago, Marketing- Kellogg, Strategy-HBS/Wharton...entrepreneuship-Stanford..I think those are really the top choices. Sloan is also good for MIS.
Y'all r a bunch of over-inflated Valentine's sale balloons.
Southwest Missourah State University - best place on earth to get a techno yem-bee-yay. State-of-the-art laboratories, superb human faculty accessible 24/7, cheap food. Glass Hall, the residence of the College of Business was founded and funded by David Glass of Walmart fame... it's a triple A+ facility.
Moona, value of MBA realistically is whatever you make of it. Just like at any regular school, there are dozens of top-school MBAs who are total idiots and don't know a damn thing about business. They can quote extensively from Kotler but can't make a marketing proposal in less than three sentences. They don't know jack about real world business, or how to make things work.. you have to give them things on a platinum platter, all ready for them to come and cut the ribbon... but give them $10 to go start a business, they'll buy a case of Perrier to market in Harlem.. and get shot doing it. On the other hand, some people who come out of top schools really have the smarts as well as the abilities to make things happen. So it all depends on how much u are ready to give of yrself.
You need only the basics for a good education. What you make of it is up to you.
Value of an MBA in a social setting... yes, it helps to show off to friends. Very petty thing to do.
Value in professional setting - depends on what u make of it. If u get a job flipping burgers, u can stay there or rise to manager, that's up to you, your vision, your efforts, your needs. Bosses will always think better of your capabilities if you have a graduate degree, but whether or not you actually utilize those capabilities and successfully make the best of them, is at your discretion.
btw moon moon, why the query? U're in People, Learning and Development... u trying to find out answers to standardized interview questions thru GS now? What happened to the Wonderlic way?
Ana: Does it bother you in the least bit to be wrong so much of the time? Just curious.
Nine out of ten, top-10 MBA graduates have come from top notch work environments, superior undergraduate centers of learning and probably have better comunicating skills than 99% of people out there. There are ofcourse going to be exceptions but whether it is over-inflation of standards established by the american educational system or the value assigned to it by society at large. Where you go, does matter. The person about to spend $200k in annual salary wants to make sure that the pedigree has been tested through out the candidates educational and professional career. Now..it does not mean that every other MBA graduate is less capable at the job offered but hirers would like to de-risk. I know very few people who worked at McKinsey and went to Okaloka Business school.
CH, I have just about had it with this snob creep attitude that people have about Ivy Leagues and similar institutions. In my personal experience, the man/woman makes the degree, not the other way around.
Let's do a lil testing out of your assertion that top-notch programs necessarily nine out of ten times translate into real-world value-creation. Go to general, I'm going to start a lil contest. We'll keep it democratic to poll the winner.
Ana: A democratic poll ingeneral yields didly. Like it or not, that is the way the world works. Now you can be a modern day Joan of Ana and go and change the criteria but having a poll in general on the merits of MBA's is like asking people in religion on the merits of other religions beside islam. Come on and smell the coffee.
what pisses me off is some desi/desun would go to an evening / weekend /Phoenix Long distance MBA program and a year and a half later, boast off their MBA degree in every other f******* conversation.
There is a big qehar (punishment) waiting for people who try to show off their degrees.
Come on guys, don't be chicken! Participate... pls?
ana i did, the basic cost benefit analysis failed my test to spend my time and effort on the initiative.
research and analysis, documenting potential opportunities, picking the most valuable which can be started with a $100K seed money. developing target market analysis, all financial stuff, cost of sales, cash flows etc etc etc..to get what, a voting by some ppl.
see a good businessman knows when to walk away and when to not even start :)
fraudz :)
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Kareem
U if Chicago is ranked number 2 in the country, ..behind kellogg which is #1 thsi year. The rankings change year to year but from what I know Chicago's MBA program has been in the top 10 and top 20 more often than not.
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It depends on who is doing the ranking. This fall some retarded ranking had Tuck at #1. Go figure.
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Kareem: U of Chicago is perhaps the number one school for Finance. It has been that way for a very long time.
If I want to run a trading desk, I go to Chicago, Marketing- Kellogg, Strategy-HBS/Wharton...entrepreneuship-Stanford..I think those are really the top choices. Sloan is also good for MIS.
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"Perhaps" being the key word here. No one said Chicago is not good. Their econ dept. is particularly good for research with several Nobel Prize winners. But to say that overall their MBA program is ranked in the top 3 is ludicrous.
And furthermore, I am willing to bet - at risk of being proven wrong - that Goldman Sachs does not hire more investment banking Associates from Chicago than elsewhere. I think that is fair measure of who holds how much power in the finance job market.