*Suicide terrorism, like the slippery concept of terrorism in general, is harder to define than it may appear. For instance, are the suicide bombings in Israel really so different from previous incidents in which Palestinian gunmen and knifemen (and the occasional Israeli) launched assaults that they had little hope of surviving? They were scarcely the first to sacrifice their own lives in order to take others. In the first century AD, the Zealots and Sicarii, two Jewish sects, attacked the Roman occupiers of Judaea and their allies in public places. The Assassins, a cult active in modern Iran and Syria from the 11th to the 13th centuries, killed their targets (mainly Muslim rulers whom they considered apostates) at close range and with no escape routes. Their name comes from the Arabic hashishiyya; the drug’s powers were thought to explain the Assassins’ oblivious bravery. *
"By picking on democracies, the terrorists can be reasonably sure that their adversaries will stop short of “the Mongol method” (ie, wholesale slaughter of the population from which the bombers derive). Even so, suicide campaigns are often designed to madden their victims into inflicting collective punishment, thus further radicalising the terrorists' actual or potential supporters, who might otherwise be repulsed by the carnage that such extreme violence causes."
Suicide bombing organizations are willing to sacrifice their own innocent women and children in order to strengthen there own movement, I suppose they would say the ends justify the means, or more likely, it is Allah's willing.
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I think that is an excellent point and one too often overlooked by those inclined to post supportive statements for “resistance” members resorting to suicide/terrorist tactics.
Part and parcel of the objective of these clowns is to cause directly or indirectly the deaths of innocent men, women and children who are among the group of people they claim to be fighting in support of. They then try to use these deaths for political advantage. The great Iraqi resistance today, for instance, blew up a car bomb in a crowd of Iraqis outside a police station. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4126139&pageNumber=1
The other day, it was a car bomb in front of a Shiite mosque. In those two cases they directly caused the deaths of innocent Iraqis. Politically, they use the deaths they caused to argue that the US occupiers can’t bring peace and stability to Iraq and therefore the US is responsible for the deaths not they themselves.
When they provoke a response that falls into the category of collective punishment, they again use their own people as pawns in the game they themselves create the rules for. They feed on death and despair among their own people and they will cause that death and despair on their own if need be.
And their supporters fall into the knee-jerk reaction of always decrying any and every death of an innocent that can be attributed to the US or zionist entity while not once questioning the tactic of their choice to “sacrifice” their own people to advance their agenda.
Actually the proper way to attack civilians is by hi-tech gadgets and bombs...Suicide bombing though a valiant, noble and highly selfless act, leaves the bomber dead...
I think we should develop the same gadgetry as the US and Israelis, because it's obvious suicide bombing is really not doing its job, and I don;t know about the American administration, but the Israelis won;t rest unless every Palestinian is dead, and in the long run, Muslim is dead...But the American administration is not far behind, being egged on enough by its religious clergy, it will seek to annihilate everything...
If it's an eye for an eye, all we are doing with suicide bombings is causing little dents...We need bunker busters, daisy cutters to counter the balance of power that has shifted to the west and has caused so much harm to the rest of the world...
War is peace, or so says Orwell and Bush, so why don;t we invest oin peace? In all these years by pursuing peace all we have been doing is creating war...So in my view, all the mod-Muslims who preach lovey dovey stuff are in reality creating war and chaos...
Watch below for the [Edited by Mursalin] thingie as the 70% of posts in WA have...:D
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Lajawab don't kid yourself, the IDF can wipe out the Palestinians within 24 hours if they wanted to. Today a Palestinian mother of 2 herself up, you have people who hate Israelis more than they love their children, how very noble.
Suicide is when you kill yourself like jumping of a building.
Martydom operation is when you kill others!
funny how these self righteous israelis and amerikkans forget about the F-15 fighter planes dropping bombs and the helicopter gunships and tank fire they use on civillian populations.
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Lajawab don't kid yourself, the IDF can wipe out the Palestinians within 24 hours if they wanted to. Today a Palestinian mother of 2 herself up, you have people who hate Israelis more than they love their children, how very noble.
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If they did, they would have signed their death warrant...Their only recourse is bit by bit and piecemeal, slowly but definitely, they are doing it...
And who gave them the power to destroy an entire people? Who armed them? Despite their record of heinous atrocities, they have the unwavering benevolence of the American administration...
Under Muslim rule, Jerusalem was open to all the people of the world, today, both Muslims and Christians are persecuted...They can't reach their places of worship without going through a hundred checkposts and strip searched and insulted by the IDF...
And anyways, the suicide soldiering has very recently caught on, it wasn't a problem 20 30 years ago...Betcha never heard of Sabra and Shatila, did ya?
Look it up, and see how courageous and noble IDF can be against starving and unarmed refugees...Much like the American soldiers in Iraq...
Israel has a right to exist, their neighbors have tried and have failed miserable to take that right away. Israel is not going anywhere, peace or no peace.
Under Muslim rule, Jerusalem was open to all the people of the world, today, both Muslims and Christians are persecuted...They can't reach their places of worship without going through a hundred checkposts and strip searched and insulted by the IDF...
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No suicide bombers, no boarder checks, it's that simple.
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Israel has a right to exist, their neighbors have tried and have failed miserable to take that right away. Israel is not going anywhere, peace or no peace.
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Well, according to the Prophetic traditions, you are right...Israel is here to stay as one of the last signs was that the Jews would have a homeland of their own...
But one thing's for sure, they will not live in peace...Fear of death shall always surround them and will live and die like the rodents they are...(Zionists, not Jews mind you)...
But one thing's for sure, they will not live in peace...Fear of death shall always surround them and will live and die like the rodents they are...(Zionists, not Jews mind you)...
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Stand tall behind the podium look directly into the camera when you say this maybe wave your fist in anger and add some dramatic music ( I suggest the first 20 seconds of 'Pulse of Events' score) then fade to black screen.
Stand tall behind the podium look directly into the camera when you say this maybe wave your fist in anger and add some dramatic music ( I suggest the first 20 seconds of 'Pulse of Events' score) then fade to black screen.
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Can you not even get the basics right.
Suicide is when you kill yourself like jumping of a building.
Martydom operation is when you kill others!
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If you think killing others is a basic tenant of a religion then that explains your hateful posts. The term martyr has been hijacked by modern day extremists.
A martyr is one who chooses death rather than renounce religious principles or one who makes great sacrifices in order to further a belief, cause, or principle. It has NOTHING to do with killing innocent people. It's just plain disgusting and goes against everything a loving God would want people to do in His name.
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If you think killing others is a basic tenant of a religion then that explains your hateful posts. The term martyr has been hijacked by modern day extremists.
A martyr is one who chooses death rather than renounce religious principles or one who makes great sacrifices in order to further a belief, cause, or principle. It has NOTHING to do with killing innocent people. It's just plain disgusting and goes against everything a loving God would want people to do in His name.
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Really you almost sound sentimental about it.
Israel is the thorn in muslim land its a cancer than will be removed one way or another.
It is like a jigsaw piece that does'nt fit the jigsaw.
As for people killing israelis its there right to kill these occupiers from europe and america because the israelis kill them everyday with helicopter gunships tanks and fighter planes!