KKF
December 6, 2013, 7:13pm
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the tradition and culture that our society now romanticize are of agricultural phase. There are many phases of social development, nomadic-tribal-agricultural-industrial-post industrial. While our culture is rooted in agricultural society our economics is in post industrial phase. It is economic structure that changes the social structure. Now economics structure is post industrial which requires both husband and wife to work to be economically stable, such traditions are entirely irrelevant if not outright obsolete.
Like there used to be no marriages during poos(paush) maas, as crops used to get cut only after mid january, when poos ends, now there are marriages all over the year. Economics driving the society
you are basically talking about urban India…we all know that 70% of Indians still live in villages where it’s quite relevant.
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but it is top 30 % that rule over 70% and shape the country, this is true about every country I believe. and these are 70% backwards
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economically backward or socially backward?
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Economically, not necessarily backwards, socially, definitely backward.
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I have not observed seclusion at this level in the South except maybe the muslim families. The Marwari families who have lived here for generations also follow this tradition so I am assuming it is more of a Northern cultural thing. We know that Purdah system originated in Persia. But am curious to know if this segregation existed before the coming of the muslims(some historians claim so) in North India and what the rationale for following was in the few communities that followed it.
jasos
December 10, 2013, 8:10am
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in olden and golden days [depends how you look at it], people were more religious and Muslims observed Islamic protocol in daily lives more closely and more sincerely. for instance, they used to knock at the door before entering their own homes [to give time for daughters/sisters/grand daughters etc to put their DupaTTa on]. even cousins were not free to enter homes.
men used to live in the mardaan-Khaana all day and they would come to zanaan-Khaana. this gave women inside the zanaan Khaana more freedom to move around and do their chores with or without DupaTTaas etc.
i’ve seen, in my childhood, several families in my village who observed strict mardaan-Khaana and zanaan-Khaana setup. i was allowed in their homes until i was like 12 years old. after that my entry was restricted…:(…there was this girl i liked and i used to play with her but when my entry in the house was restricted and her exit from the house were prohibited, i felt bad and lost contact with her…
I think they saw some “balighana harkaat” in you so “buri nazar ka bura sila”
jasos
December 10, 2013, 8:12am
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There used to be separate portions in old homes (Mardana and Zanankahna), but this is not the setup anymore.
Why this tradition ended? Is it due to economic reasons (not able to afford big house) or acceptability of mixed gatherings in society.
Yes Economic Reason
KKF
December 10, 2013, 8:22am
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baRii qayaamat kii nazar rakhte ho, miyaaN…baal kii khaal aur khaal kii baal utaarnaa to koii tum se seekhe!
vaise, i was a shareef bachcha!
jasos
December 10, 2013, 8:38am
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baRii qayaamat kii nazar rakhte ho, miyaaN…baal kii khaal aur khaal kii baal utaarnaa to koii tum se seekhe!
vaise, i was a shareef bachcha!
yea yea i know Sahreef bacha
KKF
December 10, 2013, 8:52am
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shukr karo k Halaal cheez khaaii hai, Haraam nahiiN!
vaise, peT meN daaRhii kaa kia chakkar hai?
jasos
December 10, 2013, 9:07am
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shukr karo k Halaal cheez khaaii hai, Haraam nahiiN!
vaise, peT meN daaRhii kaa kia chakkar hai?
Aab iss par muqawee he thread open karay ga
But MashaAllah we have Mardana and Zanana Khana, separated with each other. chotay motay gaon main to shaayd abhi bhi khiyal rakha jata hay :cobra:
inn shareef bachoon kay pait main darhi hoti hay 
