Malala Yousufzai attacked

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Peace rangoli

I think the media is responsible for brining Malala to the public ... And the media again are painting this picture of unitedness ... If it is truly happening then this united stand only shows how influential the Pak media are to affect the minds and hearts of the Pak people ... To endear towards one individual but at the same time ignore all those others who are being killed for no reason of their own.

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The horrendous nature of the crime brought her into the public eye... Who shoots a child in the head?!?!

Please dont dilute the tragedy of her situation by drawing false equivalences. If you must blame someone, blame the Taliban. Dont coddle them, dont try to humanize them. The drones are their fault, they brought this upon themselves, and the people around them. What the drones are doing, is what the Pak govt hasnt done, kill militants.

These events should have convinced you that there is no redeeming quality to the Taliban and that they must be fought in every possible way, including drones. Instead you are here criticizing the media... I have yet to hear a single clear condemnation for these terrorists uttered by your lips. Instead all we get is half hearted pronouncements. You seem far more disturbed by the Americans and there drones, you are convinced regardless of how flimsy the evidence that they are killing civilians, and perhaps even believe its intentional. The Taliban however, you are more then willing to give them the benefit of doubt! Oh your not sure if they are or are not doing the right thing, you cant judge them... Of course the fact that they have killed far more innocents and taken credit for it has no bearing on your regard for them... You should be far more critical of the Taliban then of the drones. ATLEAST the Drones dont claim to act in the name Islam, the faith you adhere to. Are you not repulsed that such criminals would use the your faith which you so love, and use it too justify attacking a child!

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Peace Med911

If I blame anyone I blame the people who are doing this to her and her people ... You like to call them Taliban to mentally segregate them from other groups ... But I'm becoming more and more convinced that the phantom known as Taliban who communicate through radio ... Are just another wing of the Pakistani government and US forces ... This Taliban cannot operate without external assistance and their assistance guarantees their threat ... Which allows the media to spin negative sentiments towards them ... "Tribal leaders" ... Who are then taken out with their successors to rid the region of tribal rule ... Without recourse to sympathy for them or any blame.

Who shoots a child in the head? You ask ... The religious Muslim my friend are the last people on the Earth to be anywhere doing that ... But I have seen the bloodlust and powermongery in others to believe it was them themselves ...

Lets see here ... What would you say if both the Taliban and those sending the drones were one in the same?

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Yea, obviously its her fault. Only if she had stayed indoor like Islamist want every woman (except their own) she would’ve never been shot. She forced herself in front of Taliban bullets .

People are condemning ‘Malala attack’ because it is pro-US stance, says Fazl | DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD: Maulana Fazlur Rehman said on Friday that attack on Malala Yousufzai was the result of wrong policies of the government, DawnNews reported.

He said that people were protesting against the attack on Malala just because it was a pro-American stance.

Fazl said that politicians who were urging the condemnation on the attack on a 14-year old girl have disturbed the peace of Karachi.

He repeated the popular slogan “How long will people be slave of the United States?”

Fazlur Rehman said that Ulemas have condemned the attack on Malala but who will condemn the attack on the mosques. He said that the attack was a brutal act but not everyone is condemning it out of sympathy with the girl.

He urged the government to correct its policies and stop suporting the’ US stance’.

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Peace Shamraz Khan

You should not say such things even in sarcasm … It is not her fault that she was shot … But she knew she was putting herself in danger by being vocal … She admits this in her various interviews and so does her father …

The question is that radio broadcast … Is it really the Islamic or a phantom ploy made to look like the Islamist? One proof of the latter is that there are no absolutely no opinions in Islam that say schools for women should not exist.

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Yes we should have supported the taleban stance to have a pro Pakistan stance.

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Have you read Stanford University's report?

I thought being an atheist you're more of a humanist.

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In your previous post you mentioned that taleban does not exist and they are a force of US or Pakistan army, so why would the Americans hit malala for speaking against taleban?

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Sister, I have not read a post funnier than the one you posted above. Please let us know how civilian casualty figure given by ‘Bureau of Investigative Journalism’ is not accurate and at the same time their figures are accurate (you want people to believe both at the same time). :slight_smile:

I do not understand why you did not read my post carefully as well as your own post carefully, before making your absurd comments full of ‘ASSUMPTIVE NONSENSE’. :slight_smile:

Your statement “I believe”, “could be this could be that”…NONSENSE! … Make no sense, especially when I did not write anywhere what I believe on civilian casualties due to drone strikes. I only quoted figures given by ‘Bureau of Investigative Journalism’.

You questioned the figures I quoted, figures from ‘Bureau of Investigative Journalism’ mentioned in ‘Wikipedia’, and at the same time you posted an article saying that ‘Bureau of Investigative Journalism’ figures are accurate’. Is it funny or not? :slight_smile:

Here is abstract from your post:

Maybe you did not like me referring to ‘Wikipedia’ for ‘Bureau of Investigative Journalism’ figures instead of referring them directly. So, in this post I am giving reference to actual source that would confirm quoted figures are true figures from ‘Bureau of Investigative Journalism’.

Investigative article on the subject from the website of ‘Bureau of Investigative journalism’ (from their own website): 474 out of around 3000 were civilians who got killed due to drone strikes (from 2004 to Sept 2012). Though civilian casualties could be as high as 881 (higher figure) out of 3325 (higher figure). Obviously, rest who were not civilians were terrorists and they constitute more than 80 percent of casualties.

Article on drone strike in Pakistan:
Source: The bureau of investigative journalism.

A picture of war: the CIA’s drone strikes in Pakistan: TBIJ

A picture of war: the CIA’s drone strikes in Pakistan

The Bureau has been recording every reported CIA drone strike in Pakistan. The result is our extensive database which details every known attack and the numbers killed in a covert war that has been bitterly fought since 2004.

Our detailed analysis has found that 344 strikes have killed between 2,562 and 3,325. This number includes at least 474 civilians – though the true figure maybe as high as 881.

So just what do we know? Rather than ask you to sift through thousands of lines of data, we’ve done the hard work for you – and these are the facts we’ve found:

Note: CIA claims 50 civilian death … but Bureau of Investigative Journalism claims around 474 (Min) to 881 (Max) civilians killed in drone strikes]

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tbij-infographic-drones-pakistan-v1.2.jpg

**Thus, Malala teacher is right … drone strike is the best revenge for what these Taliban Animals’ did to Malala and should continue. Fact is that, Taliban and their sympathisers do not like Drone attacks, as it is killing them in large numbers and striking fear in the heart of A-Q and Taliban leaderships, so they oppose and lie about drone strikes. All talks that Drone strikes is making people do suicide attacks in revenge is rubbish.If such was true than relatives of all whom Taliban killed would have become suicide attackers against Taliban and their supporters in revenge. Actually, Lanati people who do suicide attacks, their trainers, their propagators, their supports (morally as well as materially) and their sympathisers are all army of Shaitan whose abode after death would be ‘Hell fire’ InshaAllah. There should be no negotiating with them as one cannot negotiate with such animals whose presence (staying alive in any form) is dangerous to Pakistan as well as to the integrity of Islam. **

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Please refer to the latest reports on drone attacks and also sight the approval of drone attacks by an international human rights organisation. That's all I'm asking for. You can go ahead and label all the human rights organisations Taliban sympathisers if it makes you happy.

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Peace Ali_Syed

To continue making the threat of Taliban real and to create sympathy for her and create a distraction from the drone strikes ... Now I'm not saying they don't exist ... there are two halves of them though ... one half is the "radio" version and the other half are the existing Qabaili elite ... Pak's enemy are the Qabaili elite ... then you wonder where the supplies are coming from ... why are the Taliban so mysterious and so alien to Islam? They are either extreme irreligious people who believe themselves to be religiously motivated ... or they are infiltrated with spies working to further the cause of "animosity against them" by behaving irrationally.

If you trust what you have been given from Allah (SWT) then you will have to admit that it cannot sanction such things ... Being religious would therefore translate to be just ... and fair and merciful ... all of these traits and murderous actions are far from being Islamically religious.

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Theoretically, Taliban, A-Q members, armed robbers, rapists, smugglers, etc ... are all civilians, especially for those who are Taliban and A-Q sympathisers. For them civilian means, people who are not in armed forces and Taliban, A-Q members, armed robbers, rapists, smugglers, etc are not personals of armed forces.

Those human right activists who work on this principle and Pakistani journalists (due to their support for Taliban and A-Q, or due to political reasons) who would like to work on this principle if it suits them, obviously they would claim that drone strikes are killing only civilians, regardless of the facts.

For Pakistanis who are suffering in the hands of Taliban and their likes (especially those Pakistanis who care for Pakistan and care for all citizens of Pakistan suffering in the hands of Taliban, A-Q and sectarian outfits), these Taliban animals and their likes are not human neither Muslims but Lanati army of Shaitan who should be killed using whatever means. If Drone strikes or even USA forces on ground kills them then that is also fine, and should be appreciated.

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As I said you can carry on with your labelling others Taliban sympathisers....I'm not going to buy this nonsense.

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You do not have to buy what you do not like, do you?

Many people are living in the state of denial, especially Pakistanis. Anyhow, anyone who sympathises with killers is one of them, and Talibans are killers of innocent men, women and children. To deny that is living in denial.

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Yeah okay....I know that.

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well said .

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The thing is that who ever these TTP guys are, they have had Pakistan on the edge for the past eight years. If they are American agents, the ulemas of all sects should give fatwa against them and get over with as they are discrediting not only those who try to justify their acts but the religion of Islam as well.

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Its about time we stop using the terms what the 'western media' wants to use "Islamists" for TTP, I 'm surprised people are still taking them as 'Islamists'. We, as educated people, must bear the torch and differentiate from what is right and what is wrong. TTP are clearly terrorists/militant, they want to use "Islam" as their fooling/smoke-screen to gather support/funding/fuel etc.

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Like he put himself in the shoes of the obscenely termed ‘collateral damage’ victims of hell-fire missiles.
I guess as long as there are no hell-fire strikes in his neighbourhood, everything is fine and dandy.

This murdering is not just limited to the obscenely termed collateral damage victims but also targeting innocents without credible intelligence.

Listen about the case of a murdered young boy Tariq Aziz:

Watch from 9:10 -

Should the desi goras justifying the murderous hell-fire strikes be labeled terrorist sympathizers ?