Mahatir's Quotes..

I don’t like his domestic policies but you can’t deny the man has a way with words!

  • “For well over half a century we have fought over Palestine. What have we achieved? Nothing.” *

  • “Not only are our governments divided, the ummah is also divided, again and again. Over the past 1400 years, the learned ones, the ulema, have interpreted and reinterpreted the single Islamic religion so differently that now we have a thousand religions which are often so much at odds with one another that we often fight and kill each other.”*

  • “There’s fondness among prime ministers of Australia to make nasty comments like calling me recalcitrant. John Howard did the same thing, even casting aspersions on our judicial system. We had a very good history of treating our aborigines. We didn’t shoot them dead. We didn’t commit genocide.” *

  • And when asked by the press for his impression of Bush: “It might sound offensive, so I will not reply to that question.” *

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Re: Mahatir's Quotes..

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* And when asked by the press for his impression of Bush: "It might sound offensive, so I will not reply to that question." ***
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heh... cute.

i think that is probably how most Muslim leaders perceive of Bush, but they would never state it publically.

**"There's fondness among prime ministers of Australia to make nasty comments like calling me recalcitrant. John Howard did the same thing, even casting aspersions on our judicial system. We had a very good history of treating our aborigines. We didn't shoot them dead. We didn't commit genocide." **

No wonder "Sheriff" John Howard was left speechless after Mahathir spoke that evident truth.

He's speaking as a Malaysian Muslim. He is the PM of Malaysia and apparently practices Islam. He is not the PM of Ummah who happens to be Malaysian.

Really Imdad.

""Not only are our governments divided, the ummah is also divided, again and again. Over the past 1400 years, the learned ones, the ulema, have interpreted and reinterpreted the single Islamic religion so differently that now we have a thousand religions which are often so much at odds with one another that we often fight and kill each other."

Was there a malaysia 1400 ago? How far do you want to go on this?The mod deletes my replies because to paint him as a bigot as the rest of the world does and showcase his ignorance about the glorious past of the umah that referes to gets under their skin. ..apparently as a leader speaking to the Australians about their treatment of aborogines, I beieve he used the term genocide, he conveniently forgets that muslim empires have commited atrocities just as bad. Armenians, Zoroastrians..etc..

^The Armenian massacres were a uniquely Turkish Nationalist pogrom. Bernanrd Lewis in one of his early books stated that: while Islam has no equivalent to the renaissance, it also had no equivalent to the holocaust, mass genocide is unique in the sense of being a secular approach.

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Was there a malaysia 1400 ago? How far do you want to go on this?...
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Why don't you go when there was MALAYSIA?

More on the Bush - Mahatir meeting.

"…Dr Mahathir Mohamad has accused US President George W Bush of lying when he told reporters that he had rebuked the Malaysian leader for his remarks. …

The Malaysian leader rejected the US State Department’s account of their exchange - that George Bush told Dr Mahathir his remarks were divisive and wrong.

But the president stood by the account and Dr Mahathir has hit back.

“It was the biggest lie. If he’d rebuked me I’m quite sure I would have rebuked him also,” Dr Mahathir said.

“If you can tell a lie about the existence of weapons of mass destruction and go to war because of it I’m not surprised if he is prepared to lie about what he said to me.”

:hehe: :k:

Ok this one is hilarious:

He replied to critics at the time with accusations of double standards on what can be said about Jews and Muslims, and was equally unrepentant on Tuesday about U.S. senators. "They want to dictate (to) the world. We are all being run by the U.S. Senate, it's no good having our own elections. "We better elect (vote) in the U.S. elections and we can be sure we get the right representatives," he said, laughing.

Mahathir, U da Man

While on Mahathir - Here are some more of his quotes :-

Mahathir in his own words

Dr Mahathir is due to retire later this year
Asia's longest-serving elected leader, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, has never shied away from controversy.

The 77-year-old, who is due to hand over the premiership to a hand-picked successor later in 2003, has over the past 22 years frequently hit the headlines with his provocative remarks, drawing both condemnation and applause.

Below we list some of his most infamous comments.


On America's war on terror

If innocent people who died in the attack on Afghanistan and those who have been dying from lack of food and medical care in Iraq are considered collaterals, are the 3,000 who died in New York and the 200 in Bali also just collaterals whose deaths are necessary for operations to succeed?
March 2003

Their strategy to fight terrorism is through attacking Muslim countries and Muslims, whether they are guilty or not.
June 2003

They made a mistake in Iraq. Now in Iraq, instead of feeling happy and saying thanks to the liberators, they are killing the liberators.
October 2003


On Australia

This country stands out like a sore thumb trying to impose its European values in Asia as if it is the good old days when people can shoot aborigines without caring about human rights.
December 2002

Australia has made known to the world that it wants to be the deputy sheriff of this region. It's very difficult to get along with deputy sheriffs.
October 2003


On Europeans

They are very clever, brave and have an insatiable curiosity... unfortunately they are also very greedy and like to take forcibly the territories and rights of other people.

The culture and the values which they will force us to accept will be hedonism, unlimited quest for pleasure, the satisfaction of base desires, particularly sexual desires. Our way of life must be the same as their way of life. Asian values do not exist to them.
June 2003


On Jews

The Jews for example are not merely hook-nosed, but understand money instinctively.
1970, the Malay Dilemma

Later, on the drop in the value of the Malaysian currency:

We are Muslims and the Jews are not happy to see Muslims' progress. We may suspect that they have an agenda but we do not want to accuse them... If viewed from Palestine, the Jews have robbed Palestinians of everything but they cannot do this in Malaysia, so they do this.
October 1997


On Muslims

Disunited, confused about Islam, fighting each other for power and lacking in essential knowledge and skills... Muslims today have reached the lowest point of their development.
January 2003


On politicians

On gay British MPs:

The British people accept homosexual ministers but if they ever come here bringing their boyfriend along, we will throw them out.
November 2001

On Arnold Schwarzenegger's election as governor of California, despite allegations about his past:

"I think he had every right to contest. People do not grow up to think that, 'Ah, I'm going to be the next governor and therefore I must deny myself all the pleasures of life'."
October 2003


On retiring:

I'm 78 years old. That is old and I think I should be retiring to give other people a chance to do better.
October 2003

...since 1990 jews have won 8 nobel prizes in economics - this makes the ummah real mad because their guys who came up with interest free banking and the hawala system didn't get any attention .....

....since 1990 jews have won 8 nobel prizes in physics - that makes the unwashed arabs and arab-wannabes even madder becaues their man, sheik baz, didn't get it for his flat earth theory ..... and what about our guys who proved that you could collapse tall buildings by flying planes into them!

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...since 1990 jews have won 8 nobel prizes in economics - this makes the ummah real mad because their guys who came up with interest free banking and the hawala system didn't get any attention .....

....since 1990 jews have won 8 nobel prizes in physics - that makes the unwashed arabs and arab-wannabes even madder becaues their man, sheik baz, didn't get it for his flat earth theory ..... and what about our guys who proved that you could collapse tall buildings by flying planes into them!
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you're missing the plot.

nobody in the muslim world gives a crap about nobel prizes. thats the whole point.

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you're missing the plot.

nobody in the muslim world gives a crap about nobel prizes. thats the whole point.
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Maybe they should. Might just lead to a better life for the average people living in the muslim world.

Mahathir, you say it like it is, man. More power to you.