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OMG is that badnaam-e-zamaana Veena Malik ?
This must not be new.
Glamorous Madam ki yaad taaza ho gai. :k:
Is there a link for sharing ?
here https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=344795809031765&set=vb.281369485374398&type=2&theater
TS
September 26, 2014, 11:54pm
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Wouldn’t they wish.
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here is the full text of what Moeed Pirzada said. the poster above left out some important points
**Moeed Pirzada
1 hr ·
PM Nawaz Speech at UNGA was not bad. If anything it was a good balanced speech. Off course it was not written by Nawaz; he would not even grasp some of the concepts or terms -or their real importance - mentioned in the speech. But such speeches are always written by Foreign Policy Experts and in Tariq Fatemi, NS has an excellent Adviser with a balanced world view and we assume it must have been written by Fatemi. But Nawaz Sharif had to approve the gist and the substance and in times of political crisis like these Nawaz had no option but to go with this script and he read it well. He did not misspell, he did not fumble, he did not looked out of touch. Since it was a written script and he merely read it out, and in any case, he is not a very good speaker for such international situations but then in Pakistan who are we comparing to whom? Nawaz read it better than Zardari. He is no Oxbridge or Harvard type but from normal South Asian standards it was fine. (It was better than his performance in front of the PMLN workers in Astoria Waldorf with Ptv camera introducing them as Pak-American community; who was actually waiting for him outside UN)
But speeches are not only about “written scripts” and reading them out. Good speakers - even when speeches are written for them - identify with the substance, mark their stresses and pauses for they believe in what they are saying. For Public leaders of the stature of Prime Ministers it is far more important because you have to bring out a soul of a nation through your words and gestures. From that point of view this speech was lacking in spirit and mental synchronization with words.
Politically speaking, Nawaz’s problems are not increased by this speech - but they are not resolved either. His opponents were banking upon that he will miss out some essentials - say about Kashmir - to please the US or India but it was never possible at this stage. So it was a safe speech, damage control kind of speech, which does not give out much room for lashing at him - unless you just want to lash out at him. (And firing of Hatf-IX and his Military Chief visiting LOC few hours earlier did not give him much room either)
However PM Nawaz Sharif’s problems are very deep; he faces a serious political challenge which he and his close associates have continuously dealt, by design and intention, as a law and order or administrative problem and are still wishing that it will peter out due to sheer exhaustion of his opponents on logistic issues. (money, costs, lack of support from Army, depression due to lack of results etc) Unfortunately for Nawaz & Associates, It is not. If anything the political bug is spreading; the robust demonstration by hundreds of Pakistanis in New York only proves that; with every set back his opponents take stock and are improvising; now no one has any control on these action-reaction political dynamics; the best solution for PM Nawaz is to engage his political opponents in a meaningful way across a table and make genuine concessions; the first and foremost being “Election Audit” followed by new Election Commission and an Early Election under new mutually agreed rules and regulations by early 2015 or late 2015. And planners and killers of Model Town massacre have to be punished. Every other trick will fail. Govt will find it difficult to govern and will soon start to lose out the support of international stakeholders. The inability - or lack of desire or interest or not finding time - on part of President Obama to meet him on the sidelines of UNGA is a pointer in that direction.
you are talking about me so i shd defend…i specifically said that here is what Moeed said about “nawaz speech”…and therefore posted portions that were relevant to his speech only…such as how did he perform, his posture, delivery, who wrote his speech, what went well and what went wrong in the speech etc. From that perspective I included everything which was negative as well.
For example i included this portion as well which was against nawaz but it was relevant to speech topic:
“But speeches are not only about “written scripts” and reading them out. Good speakers - even when speeches are written for them - identify with the substance, mark their stresses and pauses for they believe in what they are saying. For Public leaders of the stature of Prime Ministers it is far more important because you have to bring out a soul of a nation through your words and gestures. From that point of view this speech was lacking in spirit and mental synchronization with words”
what i did not include was moeed’s general commentary on nawaz’s political problems which are more or less still there irrespective of nawaz speech. That is all.
appreciate you read my posts that carefully!
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@waleedhbk @Princejall @Jolie @TS @devilish_angel
Biggest foreign protest by any Pakistani political party at the New Rock City.
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Wouldn’t they wish.
Why cant I tag you? @TS
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I wonder how many of these people know that when you are shouting “go nawaz go” in the US it means you are supporting NS? :omg:
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well apa, same moeed is saying this about Nawaz speech. I hope you will consider his statement as he supports PTI and Imran.
**Moeed Pirzada
38 mins ·
PM Nawaz Speech at UNGA was not bad. If anything it was a good balanced speech. Off course it was not written by Nawaz; he would not even grasp some of the concepts or terms -or their real importance - mentioned in the speech. But such speeches are always written by Foreign Policy Experts and in Tariq Fatemi, NS has an excellent Adviser with a balanced world view and we assume it must have been written by Fatemi.
But Nawaz Sharif had to approve the gist and the substance and in times of political crisis like these …
…Nawaz had no option but to go with this script and he read it well. He did not misspell, he did not fumble, he did not looked out of touch. Since it was a written script and he merely read it out, and in any case, he is not a very good speaker for such international situations but then in Pakistan who are we comparing to whom? Nawaz read it better than Zardari. He is no Oxbridge or Harvard type but from normal South Asian standards it was fine.
(It was better than his performance in front of the PMLN workers in Astoria Waldorf with Ptv camera introducing them as Pak-American community; who was actually waiting for him outside UN)
But speeches are not only about “written scripts” and reading them out. Good speakers - even when speeches are written for them - identify with the substance, mark their stresses and pauses for they believe in what they are saying. For Public leaders of the stature of Prime Ministers it is far more important because you have to bring out a soul of a nation through your words and gestures. From that point of view this speech was lacking in spirit and mental synchronization with words.
Yes i totally agree wth moeed regarding his speech happy he talked about kashmir. But question is speech ka script kahn se aya
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aray sahib, jahilon kee koi kamiee hai kayaa…ek dhundo hazar milte hain ](http://qna.rediff.com/questions-and-answers/ek%20dhundo%20hazar%20milte%20hain )
basically they made every American who passed them realize how popular nawaz is!
GO Nawaz!
GO Broncos!
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apa, khuda ka layee…now you expect mian sahib to write the script!
shkuar karein he read it properly…remember yusaf raza gilani..lol
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The posters they are Holding are enough to tell wht they are saying
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apa, khuda ka layee...now you expect mian sahib to write the script! :D
shkuar karein he read it properly.....remember yusaf raza gilani..lol
PD bhiya at the end of day its pakistan. He talked about kashmir good. Syria good. Palestine good. Praised pak army good . Just bc i dont like him i will not criticise him for his speech.it was well written.
jasos
September 27, 2014, 4:46am
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Live Azadi march mein shamil dunya k sub sey barey mahir mushia asad pur ka neya karnam :cobra:#asad_purr ](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=asad_purr )
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jasos
September 27, 2014, 4:53am
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mairay ustaad key tarhreed :cobra: Charsi khan bhi record bananay per khushi say bay qabu ho raha hay aoa suna hay 3 chars bhari cirgut khati pee hein
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SID_NY
September 27, 2014, 5:19am
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Ya that’s actually so hilarious..
But either way NS is going from here more secure and more confident.. Anybody can scream and chant wut they want, he isn’t leaving theseat unless he does some stupid blunder like 1999
Still There is time IK and gang should go back in assemblies and give tough opposition to NS like republicans are doing here with Obama. But I guess it’s all about ego right now
jasos
September 27, 2014, 5:37am
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A Video by Gulbaz Khan at the PTI Protest at United Nations in New York.#GoNawazGo](Facebook ) | #Pakistan](Facebook ) | #PTI](Facebook )
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yet another video
Well done New Yaarkers
jasos
September 27, 2014, 10:53am
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bat to sach hey per hey ruswai key :cobra:
#buzdil_khan ](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=buzdil_khan )#MQM_best ](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=MQM_best ) **
کراچی میں تشدد کے ڈر سے خان صاحب نے ایم کیو ایم کے خلاف کچھ نہیں کہا۔ کیا وہ یہی اصول کل کے لاہور کے جلسے میں بھی اپنائیں گے اور نوازشریف کے خلاف کچھ نہیں کہیں گے؟ اب تو گلو بٹ بھی آزاد ہوچکا ھے، اب تو واقعی ن لیگ بہت خون خرابہ کرسکتی ھے۔
