Live Updates of Azadi March

[lynxukauq]

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@phoenixdesi

Khan sahib:

i***ss zalim kay khalaf’

iss faron kay kihlaf

iss ghatya aadmi kay khilaf

iss chor kay khilaf

iss qatil kay khulaf

iss lutaray kay kihlaf***

kaya language hai khan sahib…janab you are a party leader.

no wonder his supporters will use same language

I am sorry your are disappointed but this is the fact…

[waleedhbk]

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@teggy

So, the right thing to do would have been to give him the proper information. He is the most senior leader in PTI after Imran Khan according to the inter-party organization. Who’s to say Imran Khan can’t be wrong by the same token? We should try to be fair in our criticism, and remain objective.

The reason most people critique and expect much more from PTI is because they hold PTI’s political points in much higher esteem and regard than other parties. When you have high hopes, and hold someone to much higher standards; it’s a compliment, and for that reason you expect them not to become like others.

I am not against Hashmi but the guy needs to go because he has been taking too much uturns again and again which is not good for PTI
Its better that Imran said bye bye to Hashmi

[waleedhbk]

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@lynxukauq

I am sorry your are disappointed but this is the fact…

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[arshad5]

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How can IK remove an elected President of PTI just based on his whim. Is that not a dictatorship?

[waleedhbk]

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Would be surprised if anything meaningful comes out of the crops commander conference. Military doesn’t seem keen on stopping the massacre

[phoenixdesi]

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I just pray Army stays away…Inshallah Army will make the right decision.

General raheel sharif is not musharaf…shabir sahreef shaeed nishan haidar ka bhai ha…and an army man for 3 generations.

Lets hope for the best

Pakistan cannot tolerate another martial law…May Allah bless Pakistan

[Jolie]

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@teggy

Javed Hashmi has character, and he left PML(N) on principle. Everyone was rejoicing then. If he takes a stand within PTI; no matter if it was due to misunderstanding or otherwise, he should still be appreciated and Imran Khan should have listened to him, or corrected whatever misperception was formed. PTI deserves people who would rather take a stand on principle than to become ‘yes men’ because that’s what all the other political parties are accused of.

Javed Hashmi is well respected by most people.

Timing is everything in politics. The timing of Javed Hashmi’s decision to shame his own party pose a great question mark on his principles. While the entire media is covering police brutality and targeted witch-hunt hunt like attacks on the media by Punjab police. He comes out and washes his dirty laundry in the public, when the entire PTI leadership is stranded in a war-zone like area with their lives under severe danger. Suddenly, you see media especially government sponsored channel likes Geo discussing and running his press conference on loop and completely ignoring what’s happening on the ground. He’s a senior politician, he could’ve chosen a better way of making his concerns heard within the party or outside.

Besides, he has left the field without telling or confiding with anyone plenty of times, and every time PTI leadership went up to him and talked through with him. I think PTI has shown great patience with his flip flopping and mood swings. Maybe once this whole thing is over, one of them will sit down and set the record clear for the public.

[Sheeda_Pistol_1]

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@waleedhbk

Would be surprised if anything meaningful comes out of the crops commander conference. Military doesn’t seem keen on stopping the massacre

yes PTI supporters should not pin their hopes on military. they wont intervene and there is a reason.

[LP]

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@phoenixdesi

May Allah bless Pakistan

Ameen

[phoenixdesi]

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Javed hashmi saying that shk rasheed brought someone message and IK decided to march towards PM…rasheed denying.

guess what…shk rashed publicly declared many times in last few weeks that i am coordinating between Imran and TUQ…this opportunist rasheed must have brought TUQ message to Imran…i have no doubt

and now shk rasheed has run away and disappeared…lakh dee lanat

[arshad5]

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@Sheeda_Pistol

In theory, Parliament and elected officials are also answerable to the people.

In Pakistan Army is not answerable to Parliament fact](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Fact)

Yes after 5 years.

It should be, perhaps that is why they are keen on martial laws, in order to maintain their special position.

[Sheeda_Pistol_1]

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@Jolie

Besides, he has left the field without telling or confiding with anyone plenty of times, and every time PTI leadership went up to him and talked through with him. I think PTI has shown great patience with his flip flopping and mood swings. Maybe once this whole thing is over, one of them will sit down and set the record clear for the public.

PTI should not have wooed him back when he went to Multan before Aug 14 as a form of soft protest. Frankly, i knew it at that time he will not be happy eventually with the dynamic events that were to unfold later.

Anyways, nuff disucssion on ManOfPrinciples.

[arshad5]

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@Sa1eem

Again you are wrong. Army is answerable to police, law and court. If government makes a policy, than army follows that, nothing else, but again, that policy has to be within law of the country. Government cannot ask army (or police) to fire on people, or kill people, do anything illegal, or immoral, or even something against theirs’ religious beliefs (note: theirs’ not states’). As for government, even Prime Minister cannot sack a soldier leave army chief. Well, cannot even sack a policeman (lowest cadre in police rank) but a policemen can put handcuff on prime minister if he suspect that Prime Minister had broken law.

As for power of the people in state employment (government or administration) … Let me tell you few true incidences I myself witnesses.

Once I was visiting a relative in Kent (Gillingham). M2 passes just behind their house and we can see M2 from their garden. In those days, there were no cameras and speeding tickets were served manually by police (if caught). One day, we were all excited when we saw Duke of Kent’s car was stopped by police and then we saw police giving him speeding ticket.

Today on TV, Luqman was thinking to name someone’s immoral acts, and Kashif plus other anchors stopped him, saying that we should not expose them this way. But in UK I remember that a judge was caught picking girl from road, and it was all over the papers, forcing the judge to resign.

I know many cases, but let me give two examples.

1: An famous and very powerful Tory MP and conservative minister, close to Margret Thatcher (when conservative was in power) claimed something in court, but it was found that he was lying. Instantly, the MP got arrested on charge of Perjury, sent to jail for several years, and in process lost his MP post too.

2: Recently another powerful labour MP (when Labour was in power) gave fake document to get higher amount of mortgage (a crime that many do in UK). But since he was MP, he not only lost his parliamentarian post (as minister), but case stared against him. I did not followed what happened, but I would not be surprised if he was given some sentence (maybe community service or days in prison).

Protecting government buildings is not an illegal order.

[phoenixdesi]

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it is mind boggling for me…i go to twitter, facebook, guphsup, pkpolitics, siyasat and it is unbelievable that PTIans are desperately waiting for Pak army to take over and “hang this ghunda PM and his brother”…

their hatred for noon is so much that they are so happy for army to take over…astaghrfuulah

bhaai if army comes,no one knows when will it leave..and rest assured it will not make imran PM

plus you are champion of naaya pakistan..now you want army to take over and kick nawaz out?

if nawaz is kicked out because of imran and PTI protests that is a different story..but asking army to kick him out?

[Sheeda_Pistol_1]

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[waleedhbk]

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@phoenixdesi

it is mind boggling for me…i go to twitter, facebook, guphsup, pkpolitics, siyasat and it is unbelievable that PTIans are desperately waiting for Pak army to take over and “hang this ghunda PM and his brother”…

their hatred for noon is so much that they are so happy for army to take over…astaghrfuulah

bhaai if army comes,no one knows when will it leave..and rest assured it will not make imran PM

plus you are champion of naaya pakistan..now you want army to take over and kick nawaz out?

if nawaz is kicked out because of imran and PTI protests that is a different story..but asking army to kick him out?

I Wish If U Had One

[Ali_Syed]

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Imran khan fires Hashmi from Pti, so much for being a Democratic Party. I think now sheikh Rasheed should be made the president.

[Sheeda_Pistol_1]

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@waleedhbk

I Wish If U Had One

Please, dont get personal yaar.

[teggy]

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@arshad5

I don’t see any difference. At least dynasties have dissenters amongst them while IK cannot tolerate any differences of opinion. It is a question of time before PTI also becomes a dynasty.

Lets do a head count to see how many of Imran Khan’s family members hold political positions within the party or in public offices. Then compare that count to PPP and PML. Dynasty defined. Please remain objective.

[hanibal]

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@Ali_Syed

Imran khan** fires** Hashmi from Pti, so much for Democratic Party.

What do you mean fires? isn’t Hashmi elected President of PTI?