lets say ...just for the sake argument

[phoenixdesi]

Re: lets say …just for the sake argument

@Jolie

I’m sorry but it’s actually Imran’s critics and opposes who have successfully made his narrative the central point of everything. They themselves cannot look beyond Imran, and blame others for pushing his agenda? Can you guys honestly discuss anything other than Imran, ever? Of course not. Do you people have a narrative of your own, a credible person personifying your narrative? No. Your narrative is based on Imran’s narrative, the very people who think they are doing the universe a huge favour by mentioning, cursing, crucifying Imran in every sentence of theirs, have actually made sure Imran and his views stays relevant. What else can you really talk about? Nothing.

You people as his haters are hopelessly obsessed with the man, then why cry foul if his supporters are doing the same? It’s not like you get enough of talking about him. If your claim that Imran’s views are wrong, his powers are limited, his influence is wearing then why obsessively talk about him? Why bring so much light to the views you think are truly toxic? You know why Imran’s views managed to survive the test of time, it’s because his critics all those years wasted more time talking about his views then actually having any of their own. The irony of it just so sad and embarrassing.

I strongly urge all third world sham democracies, Pakistanis and pseudo- liberals from this forum to closely follow the Scottish Independence case, and learn a thing or two about tolerating different political opinions in democracy. Debates, discussions are disagreements are integral, and a true identity of successful, working democracy. They should be there and they must always be there, but the onus is always on stakeholders with majority and central powers. The wish to have everyone see the world in black and white is ridiculous, and reeks of insecurity, intolerance and lack of intellectual insight.

The amount of fascist tendencies I see in some posters in just unbelievable, it’s like you cannot have a difference of view without being called burger, TTP, terrorist supporter/ sympathizers, Zionist, mutadareen, mushatreen, musfareen, khareeji, khajoori and what not. Really? Does all that really make you any different from Taliban who quickly shout the word ‘kafir’ upon hearing a different view? Sometimes I really thank God and my parents that I didn’t get to spend a day in any Pakistani school. I wrote entire thesis blaming Britain for starting the both World War I and Cold War and I got an A for it, imagine had I written anything against Bhuttos and army in regards to creating Taliban, the liberals would’ve slain me. There are no Taliban in Lahore (or I’ve been told), but goodness, am I scared of living amongst ‘liberal fascists’…hell yes.

Jolie…you are simply taking it too far…you have absolutely no right to judge Pakistani school system labeling it as a breeding ground of fundamentalism producing narrow-minded kids … good for you that you did not spend one single day in any pakistani school and was born and raised in your** mahan england **but that does not necessarily make you more well informed or open minded especially on pakistani issues…at least your posts dont reflect that… sorry!

tell you what Jolie, i always had an impression that you are not aware of ground realities in Pakistan and you just accepted that in so many words as you never lived there…

plus there are so many discrepancies in your post…on one end you want an open discussion but when some people criticize IK and his stand on taliban (and they have every right to do that by your own standards)), you call them “IK haters”…excuse me? that makes us IK haters? hate is a very very strong word Jolie…no one taught you that in UK school system?

you suddenly start labeling all those folks as part of “third world sham democracies, Pakistanis and pseudo- liberals from this forum” and lecture them*** to closely follow the Scottish Independence case**" … *excuse me?

i mean your whole narrative of open discussion is so flawed…you are the one who is showing dictatorial behavior on a continuous basis in every post and not willing to listen to anything yet you labeled us*** “similar to Taliban who quickly shout the word ‘kafir’ upon hearing a different view”***… and further called us ***“ridiculous, and reeks of insecurity, intolerance and lack of intellectual insight” ***wah wah kaya language hai

now lets go back to my post…based on what i have seen and read, i thought it reveals a disturbing ideological flaw inherently embedded in PTI supporter’s stand given the social fabric of majority of PTI voters…and upon reflection I showed concern on this behavior as it is driven more from a blind loyalty for IK and not by any sort of ideological commitment that PTI movement was supposed to be…and I as such reflected upon that behavior in my post…where did i label PTI supporters with all those things that you are labeling us with? I mean pls just look at your response…*

anyway be happy in your mahan england and keep thanking god that you did not have to spend one single day in that filthy place called Pakistan!
*