Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
That every one supported if you remember, the subsequent operation was after the failure of the peace agreement with the taleban.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Dil to bacha hai..
The guy is totally immature/arrogant/fixed.. people who think of him as a massiah should rethink.. I appreciate the fact that he is not corrupt.. but with every passing day I believe that he totally lacks basic intelligence.. and is afraid to take clear stance on anything.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
That every one supported if you remember, the subsequent operation was after the failure of the peace agreement with the taleban.
Others supported to gain political mileage.. we know others are scoundrels.. he supported merely because dil to bacha hai.. and deficient capacity in a matter held by upper chamber of human body.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Imran's God father Zia ul Haq was actual founder of LeJ , So he has some relation with LeJ , He should request them .
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Imran's God father Zia ul Haq was actual founder of LeJ , So he has some relation with LeJ , He should request them .
AP.. your credibility as a poster suffers deeply when you try to defend the criminality being a cult follower of Zardari.. Zardari would give Pakistan to Alqaeda if he they would be able to ensure his tenure in power and billions of dollars that should come along.. It's high time to you should reconsider your slavery..
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
lol this this is awesome. Imran gets criticized even when he is the only one reaching out to victims, criticizing and condemning culprits whereas most others choose to keep quiet.
I think Imran should keep quiet and let current rulers resolve the problem. He should stop talking about peace talks and make it clear to everyone that he only wants the problem resolved peacefully, if you don't agree go ahead and do what you think is best, let's see how many come up with a solution.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Dil to bacha hai..
The guy is totally immature/arrogant/fixed.. people who think of him as a massiah should rethink.. I appreciate the fact that he is not corrupt.. but with every passing day I believe that he totally lacks basic intelligence.. and is afraid to take clear stance on anything.
Can you please enlighten me what your mature and down to earth leaders have done?
When you point out the problem, you need to provide solution as well so please tell us who you think is best leader right now, what is his/her counter terrorism strategy and what are their qualifications.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
expect a jiyala to pull anything from where sun doesn’t shine
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Fasten your seat belts please. going for a Such ride with AP 
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Can you please enlighten me what your mature and down to earth leaders have done? When you point out the problem, you need to provide solution as well so please tell us who you think is best leader right now, what is his/her counter terrorism strategy and what are their qualifications.
I have never defended any politician.. I don't follow a personality cult. Defenders-supporters of Imran Khan would endorse all his actions projecting him as someone who can not falter. What took him 16 years to name LEJ.. they are doing these sort of activities from last many years and claiming responsibility. Still today he does not favor military action against such groups.. He may be a sincere person.. a non corrupt leader.. but lacks intelligence to come in terms with simple fact that we need to go after these animals in their hide outs.. instead of trying to defend our mohallas from such incidents.** There should be no negotiation with any group who do not give up militancy and arms unconditionally.. **Every political party.. Pakistani individual should come to basic consensus on this will to fight these scoundrels without ifs and buts. People like me just want IK to come out of this taliban apologist closet completely without ifs and buts.. no just when he is under pressure after some large scale terrorist incident...
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Others supported to gain political mileage.. we know others are scoundrels.. he supported merely because dil to bacha hai.. and deficient capacity in a matter held by upper chamber of human body.
I personally support the decision of giving the taleban of Swat a chance to establish peace there. Before that the people were confused as who to support, Pakistan army or the taleban as both were muslims. When taleban missed the opportunity, and instead tried to increase their area of control, the whole country demanded an operation there. Imran Khan at that time was not in favor of operation and that was a blunder on his part. Imran Khan didnt have any standing on the national level, hence his opinion didnt matter in any case. Even now Imran Khan is not in assembly, but still he is held more accountable as compared to Nawaz Sharif (whose party's pandering with ASWJ/LEJ is well known) and the Federal government which holds the interior ministry.
Secondly the military does not want to launch operations in NWA hence making lame excuses. Although for other operations in FATA and Balochistan they have never asked for consensus. Operations in Khyber Agency and Orakzai are going on for more than 3 years, I wonder who they are fighting there and how long it will take them to clear the areas. Even now in the garb of carrying out operations against LEJ in Balochistan, operations are being carried out against the Baloch nationalists and the LEJ is free to unleash their terror on the populace. More than the politicians and ordinary people, its the military which needs to define its priorities.
Can we blame our people when our military establishment has portrayed these people as heroes for over 25 years? What did they expect the people to do when they suddenly designated those people as enemies, who they had been hailing as heroes for a long time?
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
I personally support the decision of giving the taleban of Swat a chance to establish peace there. Before that the people were confused as who to support, Pakistan army or the taleban as both were muslims. When taleban missed the opportunity, and instead tried to increase their area of control, the whole country demanded an operation there. Imran Khan at that time was not in favor of operation and that was a blunder on his part. Imran Khan didnt have any standing on the national level, hence his opinion didnt matter in any case. Even now Imran Khan is not in assembly, but still he is held more accountable as compared to Nawaz Sharif (whose party's pandering with ASWJ/LEJ is well known) and the Federal government which holds the interior ministry.
Secondly the military does not want to launch operations in NWA hence making lame excuses. Although for other operations in FATA and Balochistan they have never asked for consensus. Operations in Khyber Agency and Orakzai are going on for more than 3 years, I wonder who they are fighting there and how long it will take them to clear the areas. Even now in the garb of carrying out operations against LEJ in Balochistan, operations are being carried out against the Baloch nationalists and the LEJ is free to unleash their terror on the populace. More than the politicians and ordinary people, its the military which needs to define its priorities.
Can we blame our people when our military establishment has portrayed these people as heroes for over 25 years? What did they expect the people to do when they suddenly designated those people as enemies, who they had been hailing as heroes for a long time?
If there is a political and national consensus on doing meaningful military action against these militants not only in NW but all over Pakistan.. I don't think military or establishment will be left with any choice. Why do we blame Imran Khan.. I think he has been the biggest hindrance in forming this much needed consensus. His politics is based on negotiating with these militant criminals.
There should be no negotiating with any militant group who are not willing to give up their arms and continue to use violence to promote their agendas. The debate of which agenda is correct or if the justification to kill innocent people is valid should not even occur in our country. This kind of justifying violence on one pretext or another was started by Imran Khan.
You are absolutely right that military has promoted these militant groups. Probably they even support them today. Why should't all the political leadership including Imran Khan stand against this establishment action. If they don't follow the political leadership directives.. sack them-replace them..
If our people and political leadership forms a consensus on this minimum agenda to secure the lives of innocent people of Pakistan.. No establishment will ever dare to go against the will of the people. Blaming everything on military establishment and not admitting our leadership failures will not help in solving this biggest threat to our country.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
If there is a political and national consensus on doing meaningful military action against these militants not only in NW but all over Pakistan.. I don't think military or establishment will be left with any choice. Why do we blame Imran Khan.. I think he has been the biggest hindrance in forming this much needed consensus. His politics is based on negotiating with these militant criminals.
There should be no negotiating with any militant group who are not willing to give up their arms and continue to use violence to promote their agendas. The debate of which agenda is correct or if the justification to kill innocent people is valid should not even occur in our country. This kind of justifying violence on one pretext or another was started by Imran Khan.
Imran's basic following is the religious right. All the parties belonging in that bracket have had the same point of view as him. You cannot single out Imran for that.
I (as an ordinary Pakistani) have myself remained confused till 2009 (launch of Swat Operation), and mind you I was not following Imran Khan then. I have read in newspapers that how a father hit the soldiers who brought the body of his son after his death in Fata. According to him his son was a kafir since he was fighting against fellow muslims there. How can you expect all the people to take a sudden uturn and start considering those people as enemies who used to be "mujahids" only a few days ago? This is exactly what has happened in Pakistan, the brainwashing that our military establishment has carried out during the past 30 years is paying dividends now.
As far as Imran Khan being an impediment in carrying out operations in Fata, has he been consulted before launching the operations in the other six agencies of Fata, Swat/Dir and Balochistan? Leave this aside now he is asking for an operation against LEJ, why is the military not carrying out an operation against them? Has he got the power/government machinery to force the powerful mafia ruling the country to take actions as per his wishes? Does our army still consider these people as strategic assets? US draw down is nearing, I dont know if the military still has strategic objectives in Afghanistan or not. I dont know whether they will achieve those objectives or not but they will surely destroy the country.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
In addition to my previous email, in the bigger scheme of things operations are just the tip of an ice berg. Operations were carried out in Swat, the valley was cleared but again the militants are raising their heads there. The Operations in Khyber Agency are going on for more than three years, the people of the area are getting fed up as their people are being killed both by the military as well as militants. As a result at some stage the people in those areas could also pick up guns.
In our recent history we can see the countries like Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Syria and the correlation that exists between breakdown of governance (power vacuum) and increase in militias. We are trying to treat the symptoms for the past 10 years but not the ailment itself. If the policy that we are using is not yielding any result, we need to pause and think again, maybe we are making a mistake somewhere. If the base of the building is tilted, you can demolish and rebuild the home 100 times, it will still remain tilted.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
If there is a political and national consensus on doing meaningful military action against these militants not only in NW but all over Pakistan.. I don't think military or establishment will be left with any choice. Why do we blame Imran Khan..** I think he has been the biggest hindrance** in forming this much needed consensus. His politics is based on negotiating with these militant criminals.
He may be biggest hindrance to you as you probably view him as The Leader for Pakistan, so do I, but there are bigger hurdles like JUI, JI, PML-N who are in bed with these terrorist groups.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
He may be biggest hindrance to you as you probably view him as The Leader for Pakistan, so do I, but there are bigger hurdles like JUI, JI, PML-N who are in bed with these terrorist groups.
Imran has called the bluff by asking for an operation against LEJ. Now I wonder why no operation is not taking place.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
AP.. your credibility as a poster suffers deeply when you try to defend the criminality being a cult follower of Zardari.. Zardari would give Pakistan to Alqaeda if he they would be able to ensure his tenure in power and billions of dollars that should come along.. It's high time to you should reconsider your slavery..
Living in London and posting and living in Pindi and posting are two different things . I defend them because I knew the real criminals so crimes of Civilians are even not condemnable .
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
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Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Living in London and posting and living in Pindi and posting are two different things . I defend them because I knew the real criminals so crimes of Civilians are even not condemnable .
Amazing logic. There are two criminals. One must not be condemned because the other is a criminal too, while both bleed the country dry.
Thank you.
Re: LeJ must stop terrorism in the name of Islam: Imran Khan
Living in London and posting and living in Pindi and posting are two different things . I defend them because I knew the real criminals so crimes of Civilians are even not condemnable .
Are you saying while living in Pakistan one can not say truth?