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I liked the speech until he mentioned SHOWBAZ in the end.
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to those charitable enough to keep giving taleban the benefit of the doubt over and over again, I’ll repeat what I said when the same doubts were being raised about them being lahore bombings (which they also took creditfor, to the persistent silence of the charitable ones) :
Add kidnapping to bombings, since that does seem to be an acknowledged activity for these scumbags now.
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^ Was Dr. Khan killed because he was Shiai? If not, you are not on topic.
No he was not shia. But the point was that doctors are being killed for long time, especially shia doctors, and there have not been as much hue and cry about it as this one.
So for people like Imran to say that terrorism started after 2001 is preposterous and insult to victims of Taliban terrorism of that time.
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Has anyone been arrested has any court case been made? all i see is american militia walking around pakistan to do what they like and nobody ask them any questions they can even go into nuclear facility!!! so what are these foreigners doing in pakistan do you have answer i would like to hear it?
yeah i do have an answer you would LIKE to hear. Pakistan was once the last bastion of the true Islam and was on the road to progress and was about to overtake the super power America, in fact the entire Western civilisation. THe westerns were alarmed by these developments and sent their agents to counter the rapid progress of the Islamic nation. Nations like Saudi Arabia injected Pakistan with much needed assistance to produce modern warriors. These modern warriors are still fighting for their homeland Pakistan against the invidious forces of West bent on destroying the once progressive Pakistan.
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These Talibans are scums.. filth of teh earth... they brutally murdered 10 western doctors(including women) in Afghanistan few days back who were serving poor Afghans... I think muslim nations should start a high handed jihad against these Taliban thiefs..
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These Talibans are scums.. filth of teh earth... they brutally murdered 10 western doctors(including women) in Afghanistan few days back who were serving poor Afghans... I think muslim nations should start a high handed jihad against these Taliban thiefs..
you have any proof the taliban did it, i can say the americans scum did it but how can i proove it so before you accuse people of being scum you need proof.
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WTH man, u just request for that proof just few posts back and u got the proof and u heard and also read they claimed whatever the BHOLE log like u was in doubt about incidents.. and u again looking for a proof,
man u need some special prayers. May Allah give u hadaiyat ameen
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WTH man, u just request for that proof just few posts back and u got the proof and u heard and also read they claimed whatever the BHOLE log like u was in doubt about incidents.. and u again looking for a proof, man u need some special prayers. May Allah give u hadaiyat ameen
Also no problem i pray allah give me hadayat in all my nimaz and if you pray you will also ask swt for gudiance Surah Fatiha Ihdinas siratal mustaqeem which means give guidance.
But back to the topic what proof is that can you show me. that taliban or muslims is responsible for all the killings?
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At least have some justice and condemn these butchers called Talibans…
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dude if you going to make this as your evidence at least read the story because this quote is in your so called proof:
"The group have a record for claiming responsibility for attacks in which they were not involved. "
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It is exceptionally naive to believe that people of any particular faith would not injure others of the same faith. The fact that it does happen is of course a very tragic and unfortunate reality. By suggesting that it is hard for you to accept that, and then going on to find a foreign entity to blame it on, proves that you are indeed turning a blind eye to facts. As we have said before, the United States Department of Defense has not used the services of Blackwater/Xe in Pakistan. There are approximately 230 U.S military personnel in Pakistan. They are present in Pakistan at the request of the Pakistani government. Their mission is to support security assistance programs and help them acquire training in counterinsurgency techniques. The purpose of these programs is to aid our Pakistani allies so that they can fight against violent extremist organizations and stop these barbarians from killing the educated and innocent people of Pakistan such as Dr. Khan. These extremists are indiscriminately killing innocent people. To their mercenary objectives, it does not matter whether you are a Muslim or not. Even during the sacred month of Ramadan, the TTP conducted terrorist activities which killed many innocent Pakistani people, blatantly disregarding the basic teachings of peace and good will during that month. In fact it is too easy to blame everything on these imaginary American death squads that you have created for yourself, instead of paying attention to self proclaimed confessions by the Taliban claiming that they are behind such heinous attacks.
LCDR Bill Speaks,
DET - United States Central Command
www.centcom.mil
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Thanks for your reply.
In your post you said there is only 230 US military personel in pakistan.
With dozens of FBI and CIA offices dotted around pakistan, several airfields given to the US forces, military bases, confirmed private contractors blackwater/XE, dynacorp ( death squads ), establishment of QRF( quick reaction force) you say you have only 230 military personel?
I know asif zardari is an idiot with no brain but please don’t think the rest of us are that stupid.
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Dear Javedmiandad,
It is our pleasure to be able to reply to you, and other members, in order to clarify some misconceptions that have been formulated and spread throughout the social media network. In addition, we hope to be able to address concerns that have been raised due to these false statements. We believe that the members of forums, such as this one, are intelligent enough to reason and research credible sources for the news that they receive and accept. It is due to this belief that we are responding and contesting some baseless theories. We hope that you have paid attention to our previous post where we have explicitly informed you of our 230(approx.) military personnel’s mission in Pakistan. Also stated in our previous reply was the fact that there are no Blackwater, Xe,dynacorp, QRFs in Pakistan. . We should be clear – we do not use Blackwater/Xe contractors in Pakistan. Moreover, the private security contractors we do employ there serve only support and diplomatic security roles, and certainly do not conduct military operations. We see a daily barrage of allegations involving “Blackwater,” but we never see any evidence offered for these stories. Why, then, are they so readily accepted? It is of interest to us to know the credibility and nature of the sources you have used in your post. The military cooperation between the United States and Pakistan is well known hence the presence of the military personnel. The US does not have any bases or airfields in Pakistan, and any facility we use in Pakistan is done with the permission of your government. We are present there with the knowledge and invitation of the Pakistani government and are training Pakistan military in counterinsurgency. Lastly, are you going to disregard full fledge confessions by the TTP and other terrorist groups when they engage in terror activities and kill innocent people. Are you still going to adhere to conspiracy theories that do nothing better than evoke more hatred? Are you going to deny that both countries want to get rid of terrorists that are targeting sacred places such as mosques and other public facilities so that they could murder the maximum number of civilians? We urge you to stop supporting a lawless group that wants to turn Pakistan into a terror base just like they did in Afghanistan. Death squads and conspiracies could make a good movie plot but in real life it hinders one’s judgment and strays one away from the truth. We could give you thousands of reports on terror acts committed by these terrorists, but it won’t make a difference if you close your mind to the truth and blame problems on outside entities. We urge you to strengthen Pakistan’s relationship with its allies that are constantly trying to put an end to terrorism in the region.
In closing, I would like to remind you of an incident from last year in which these false Blackwater rumors had real consequences. In November, a national daily newspaper published on its front page the photograph of a residence in Islamabad that it alleged is a “suspected Blackwater house,” where “suspicious foreigners” had “manhandled” and created “a wave of fear and insecurity” among residents. The accusations were entirely false. The photographed house had been inhabited until that report by civilian humanitarian staff from the U.S Agency for International Development (USAID) who lived there quietly, without incident. They then had to move from the residence for security reasons. Aside from the aggressive harassment of these aid workers without cause, the newspaper’s false accusations were directed against people working with the Pakistan government to alleviate the plight of Pakistan’s poorest citizens.
LCDR Bill Speaks,
DET – United States Central Command
www.centcom.mil
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alright Miandad you have direct connection now:D:
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20 doctors in 26 years…that must be a very disproportionately high ratio…less then 1 doctor a year…I cannot imagine the overall number of doctors of all faiths killed in Pakistan annually for the last 26 years to be not more then 2…even 5 would be too many for this disproportionately high ratio of 1 per year to considered as such…and there is no way 10 doctors of all faiths would be getting killed in Pakistan…
According to Qadianis and their sympathizers, any attack or act of violence against qadianis, since qadianis wear their faith on their sleeves is a sectarian attack…a dose of reality and solid proof to substantiate these highly dubious statistic would be more welcome then the utter conjecture and nonsense being posted here…
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Dear Bill speaks
thanks for you reply, Your government line is and pakistan interior minister malik rehman also claimed that mercenary groups like blackwater/XE, dynacorp etc are not in pakistan.
this is contradicted by your own US defence secretary robert gates who says they do operate in pakistan so who is telling the truth and who is lying see link from your own government website?
http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=4542
Regarding confessions of ttp and other groups its difficult to validate without a trial and investigation into the evidence available. As we know war is full of deceit and misinformation is given from both sides.
Regarding cooperation between pakistan and US military i am against it simply for the reason it is resulting in the deaths of thousands of people. What The US wants to achive in afghanistan will not work because the values and ideology of america contradict what the people of afghanistan and muslim world want.
I am not interested in conspiracy theories or spreading lies i can only base my views on what the political players are saying and the actions that are happening on the ground.
What is happening in pakistan is a smaller scale action replay of what has happened in iraq, or in certain countries in south america. In past history if a person studies american foriegn policy it is not too difficult to conclude what the outcome will be and for me it i doubt it will be a positive one.
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The public is not that naive, except for the native enablers on NIA's payroll...the biggest secret is that whatever has been deemed top-secret is not all that secret and easily available in the public domain...posters arguing to the contrary have certainly overlooked the covert/black ops, i.e. CIA's hit squads roaming about and taking out whomever has been deemed expendable in the the tribal areas of Pakistan...To be fair, CIA doesn't come under CENTCOM's purview, none the less, it's a US entity operating in Pakistan with impunity...
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Why you are counting US army in Pakistan.
We have many hundred thousands to serve them.
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It is exceptionally naïve to believe that Muslims cannot, and have not in fact, injured one another in the past. The fact that it does happen is of course a very tragic and unfortunate reality. By suggesting that it is hard for you to accept that, and then going on to find a foreign entity to blame it on, proves that you are indeed turning a blind eye to facts. As we have said before, the United States Department of Defense has not used the services of Blackwater/Xe in Pakistan. There are approximately 230 U.S military personnel in Pakistan. They are present in Pakistan at the request of the Pakistani government. Their mission is to support security assistance programs and help them acquire training in counterinsurgency techniques. The purpose of these programs is to aid our Pakistani allies so that they can fight against violent extremist organizations and stop these barbarians from killing the educated and innocent people of Pakistan such as Dr. Khan. These extremists are indiscriminately killing innocent people. To their mercenary objectives, it does not matter whether you are a Muslim or not. Even during the sacred month of Ramadan, the TTP conducted terrorist activities which killed many innocent Pakistani people, blatantly disregarding the basic teachings of peace and good will during that month. In fact it is too easy to blame everything on these imaginary American death squads that you have created for yourself, instead of paying attention to self proclaimed confessions by the Taliban claiming that they are behind such heinous attacks.
LCDR Bill Speaks
DET – United States Central Command
www.centcom.mil