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What do you say about other Muslims using the same logic about Firon vs Moses, and Prophet Muhammad vs Abu Leheb?
For example, Iqbal:
sateeza kar raha he azal se ta imroz
chiragh e Mustafavi se sharar e Bu Lehebi
From tafsir by Ibn Kathir
Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn Abbas said: do not say (anything of which you have no knowledge).‘’ Al-`Awfi said: “Do not accuse anyone of that of which you have no knowledge”
Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Quran Tafsir - Do not speak without Knowledge
Isn't it what EVERYONE with ANY religious affiliation does? .......
So why criticize shias alone?
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Filthy stories propagated by any group Shia/Sunni/Brelvi/Ahl Hadis/deos and deobandis/Ahmadi/Christian/Hindu that destabilize our beautiful country, AND create religious or ethnic hatred among different groups should not be aired.
That's all.
On another note, Shias and Sunnis in Pakistan were SUPPOSED to belong to the same religion, then why on earth you are referring to Shias alone?
What rubbish Shias spread from Iran, or the hateful ideology that Sunnis import ideology from Saudi, should all stay in their source countries. Pakistan is not a dumping ground for the Irani/Saudi filth.
For 170 million Pakistanis, this is our ONLY home. If Allah maaf kuray, something bad happens to our beautiful country, do you think Iran will open its doors to all the Shias from Pakistan? Or Saudis will grant open citizenships to all Sunnis?
Heck no!
Then why on earth we have to import religiously inspired filth and kuchla and koora kirkat from Iran and Saudi?
Why?
We in Pakistan do not need any more Irani/saudi/Baghadai $hite. Don't you realize that we are already losing our precious soldiers in order to get rid of the talbhianic $hite.
It is time we quit reading and spreading hate among ourselves, and start thinking about ways that improve our country and make it a tolerant, and prosperous place.
Amen.
Re: Khutba of Zainab, Ali's Daughter, in Yazid's Court
can you please mind your language?
people may be more inclined to read what you post if you are decent.......
Filthy stories propagated by any group Shia/Sunni/Brelvi/Ahl Hadis/deos and deobandis/Ahmadi/Christian/Hindu that destabilize our beautiful country,
You forgot to add Ismailis in this list.
And what Filthy story are you talking about? Karbala?
actually Karbala does not divide but unite Muslims. Imam Hussein does not belong to shias alone.
Re: Khutba of Zainab, Ali's Daughter, in Yazid's Court
^Mr. Prince, let us hear out your motive of bringing this story up. Is it to remind us of what happened? Or some other typical rafidha agenda?
If it is former then we pay no heed to stories which are doubtful. How about bringing up events where your own people insulted the mother of the believer and first 3 kuhlafa? Were those 4 people not beloved to the Prophet? Why do you not defend their honour?
if it is the latter then what can I say
...... And what Filthy story are you talking about?....
Any story that brings out sectarian or ethnic hatred all the way from 1300 years ago.
Either you don't live in Pakistan,
Or
you are oblivious to the sectarian hatred among Pakistani-Shias and Pakistani-Sunnis.
Why?
Because one group is hell bent on IMPORTING sectarian hatred from Iran
And
the other group is heaven bent on IMPORTING equal amount (if not more) of rubbish from Saudi.
Result?
Bloodshed of innocent Shias and Sunnis in PAKISTAN.
Got it?
Re: Khutba of Zainab, Ali's Daughter, in Yazid's Court
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Any story that brings out sectarian or ethnic hatred all the way from 1300 years ago.
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How come khutbah of Zainab bring out sectarian hatred? Wasn't she a revered personality for both shias and sunnis?
1300 years ago? Do you know who Imam Hussein was? Do you understand who Ahle Bait are?
Why do you talk about Islam and Prophet Muhammad, who are 1400 years old now?
Why do Christians talk about 2000 year old Jesus?
bravo atleast u did some research , what “lack of information” are u pointing to ? esp since u google everything anyway ! again I asked for PRIMARY sources, thats all
anyho the presence of family of hussain b ali is attested widely from many other sources as well like testimony of sahaba wathila b asqa and sahl b sa’d who were present in syria at that time.
you follow madhab of ahle bait as christians claim to follow Jesus pbuh Ha
Re: Khutba of Zainab, Ali's Daughter, in Yazid's Court
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What rubbish Shias spread from Iran, or the hateful ideology that Sunnis import ideology from Saudi, should all stay in their source countries. Pakistan is not a dumping ground for the Irani/Saudi filth.
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That is so true ...full marks for saying that
overthrow saudis and ahmednijad and half of the problems of muslim world r solved.
Khomenin was much better than this clown ahmedinijad , if muslims had realized it at the time , all tyrants of middle east wud have been gone.
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actually Karbala does not divide but unite Muslims. Imam Hussein does not belong to shias alone.
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wow how is that now !!!!
u ONLY follow the madhab of ahle bait right ? or so u claim ...all others are followers of muawiyah and yazid right ? isnt that what u have said time and again
now when unity is questioned u are quick to hide ....i know ur under handed tricks
bravo atleast u did some research , what "lack of information" are u pointing to ? esp since u google everything anyway ! again I asked for PRIMARY sources, thats all
You're welcome.
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You don't even follow it even in that way.
Wafaat of Bibi Zainab (SA) (www.shohada-e-kerbala.com)
She well conveyed the message of Karbala’s uprising and tragedy to the world and today it is a great honor for Muslims to follow this great lady as an example in their lives.
The life of the daughter of Hazrat Al-Zahra (A.S.) was always laden with hardships, but she never feared coping with difficulties, this enhanced her endurance and elevated her soul.
Ms. Carin from Germany, after embracing Islam, chose Zainab as her first name.
Regarding her incentive in choosing this name, she says: “ I was always interested in the life story of the holy Prophet of Islam (MBABUHP) and his household. I was specially affected by the story of uprising of Imam Hussein (PBUH) in Karbala, and the personality of Hazrat Zainab in the events of Karbala.
The spirit of Bibi Zaynab (A.S.) will live forever. Her courage and submission will continue to inspire those who hear her story for all times to come.
Re: Khutba of Zainab, Ali's Daughter, in Yazid's Court
but jafer al kalaini havent narrated nething (if ne then i have missed it ) in asool e kafi from her including the khutba u have shared in op .
y?
^ Nor has he reported many khutbahs of Imam Ali from Nahjul Balagha.
What's the point, Yazidi?
You're welcome.
You don't even follow it even in that way.
you dont get sarcasm do u ?
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abbasi so ur a christian what is ur trinity ?
abbasi so ur a christian what is ur trinity ?
Please stop being personal, and argue with rationality.