Khawarij- open discussion

[USResident]

Re: Khawarij- open discussion

JAK Br. Psyah.

@psyah

Peace All

esp. Das Reich and USResident

Good thread and good replies Alhumdulillah …

The difference we have today as opposed to the time of the early Khawarij is the fact that Islam en masse is not considered the “fashionable” way of life like it was back then.

This is something I agree with 100%. Ideologies or theologies were promoted mostly through leadership centuries ago. This is why ideologies spread en masse and Islam is no exception to that.

@psyah

Religious Muslims had a lot more political influence because the wind of Islam was still fresh. Today we have another thing to handle together with the zealous Muslims of today, we have the pro-Western Muslim mindset (fully progressive and removal of morals and values).

I don’t think all pro-Western muslims are for the removal of morals and values. I would rather put it as westernized . You might say they are Kalma go, but it ends there.

@psyah

The religious Muslims who follow sound traditions are marginalised by the zealous as ‘not standing up and making too much friendship with non-Muslims’ and the secular Muslims are marginalising the religious by associating them ignorantly with the zealous Muslims.

The Western media promote the views of both the extremes however the middle path view is only offered through lesser forms of media … GS for this reason can be a good thing inshaAllah.

Today we have more to contend with that is a fact and furthermore we are disadvantaged as being Muslim is not the trendy thing to be.

To salvage the extreme followers of both the folds i.e. zealous and liberal Muslims we are met with difficulty, because to approach the liberal Muslim we need to show that Islam is better and offers compassion this is seen by the zealous as weakness, on the other hand if we show the zealous the correct and strict followings and interpretations we are seen by the liberals as uncompromising.

The truth is that Islam doesn’t need to be compromised and we don’t need to use force to establish Islam correctly. However to be uncompromising and completely passive is also wrong.

Nice observation. Must agree. I think instead of bringing zealous and liberal muslims together we should work both ends and move them towards the center. Ofcourse this is a figurative statement. Bringing zealous and liberals under one umbrella to compromise never works, each extreme needs to be worked on separately. And this requires a lot of tolerance and patience. This is no easy task, I know it because the muslim community I live in here is polarised between religious and liberal muslims very distinctly. The liberals are mostly the financiers of the community whereas then grunt work is done by the religious crowd and believe me it is no easy task to keep them together. Being the middleman, means you take hits from both sides and sometimes it can be very hurtful and overbearing.