Kashmir ki Shawl, Lucknow ka Doshala

[muqawwee123]

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@khubsoorat

Meray pas b kashmiri shawl hai

any pic? price? kashmir emporium se li?

[khubsoorat]

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Pic to main ne nhi li uskii
meri frnd ne gift diya tha , she is kashmiri

[KKF]

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@khubsoorat

Pic to main ne nhi li uskii
meri frnd ne gift diya tha , she is kashmiri

oh achchhaa…

…btw, is she an Indian Kashmiri?

[khubsoorat]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

oh achchhaa…

…btw, is she an Indian Kashmiri?

jee nhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
only maqbooza kashmir

[mahool]

Re: Kashmir ki Shawl, Lucknow ka Doshala

Sarma Ki Hawaon Mein Hai Uryan Badan Uss Ka
Deta Hai Hunar Jis Ameeron Ko Doshala

In the bitter winds of winter, the poor labourer works in a naked body,
though his skill provides **shawls **to the rich.

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[KKF]

Re: Kashmir ki Shawl, Lucknow ka Doshala

bahot Khoob Mahool...kiskaa hai yeh she'r? :)

[KKF]

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@khubsoorat

jee nhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
only maqbooza kashmir

ok ok…tumhaaraa maqbooza Kashmir India meN hai aur meraa maqbooza Kashmir Azad Kashmir meN hai…let’s make a switcharoo!

[mahool]

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The word ‘shawl’ has different similar sounding terms in different languages e.g. in French, it is ‘chale’, in German, it is called ‘schall’ and in Italian, it is termed ‘scialle’ - all essentially meaning a square or a rectangular wrap, big enough to be draped around the shoulder, what is also commonly known as the ‘shoulder-mantle’.

When we say Pashmina or a Cashmere shawls, we are referring to the shawls spun out of the fine yarns made with fibers sourced from the discarded undercoats of Tibetan or Changthangigoats. They are also commonly known as ‘changra’ goats, which are found in the high altitude mountain ranges of these regions. The other known breeds, used to source pashmina/cashmere fibers are of Orenburg goats and Mongolian goats.Two main determinants of the quality in pashmina/cashmere are the fiber diameter and the staple length. For good quality, the manufacturers purchase material between 13 - 20 microns. To let you make a comparison, a human hair has a diameter of around 70 microns. When these fine fibers are spun into thread, a multitude of microscopic air-pockets are formed; it is these that give the material its extraordinary warmth and softness.It would be interesting to note that until well into the 19th century, when the ladies shawl became a high fashion item in the west, there had been similar products in use. According to pashmina shawl historian Moorcroft, there existed ‘do-shala’….long shoulder-mantles woven in pairs. These were used by noblemen of the times.

The do-shala shawl, often woven so cleverly that it is difficult to say that it has been joined/stitched together seam to seam!

Then there were ‘qasaba’ or ‘rumal’, large squares for women’s wear.

this particular rumal shows the moon motifs prevalent in those times!

Also, there were ‘shamla’ or ‘cummerbunds’, girdles for the waist, worn by Asiatics.

What a beautiful cummerbund it is…!

The modern term ‘jamawar’ popularly used in shawls today, originated from a particular type of all over design, which were tailored into ‘jama’, or various over-garments, worn by men e.g. -* ‘choga’, ‘angarkha’, ‘atamsukh’.*

The jama or choga using jamawar work, on which today’s jamawar shawls are based.

So the art of weaving a pashmina/cashmere shawl or a more popular stole or scarf, dates back to many centuries. In old times, it had various avatars e.g.‘rumal’, ‘jama’, ‘doshala’,‘cummerbund’. But the art of weaving a shawl/stole is still preserved in its original form when it is hand spun and hand woven. Though now-a-days, it is woven on power looms also. The art of adornment in the form of hand embroidery is still as painstakingly done, as in yore. The special embroidery technique of ‘kani’ is also being recognised today for its beauty and precision…though its design /*talim *is being computerised now…the actual work is still being done by hand.

Credit: Article retrieve from online blog and written by Nisha Singal

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[khubsoorat]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

ok ok…tumhaaraa maqbooza Kashmir India meN hai aur meraa maqbooza Kashmir Azad Kashmir meN hai…let’s make a switcharoo!

Tauba hai itni ghuma phira k batein krtay hain k mujhy bhook lgni start ho jati hai soch soch k he

[KKF]

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@khubsoorat

Tauba hai itni ghuma phira k batein krtay hain k mujhy bhook lgni start ho jati hai soch soch k he

lol…ab yeh naii bata me ko pataa chali k ‘bhook kaa ta’alluq soch’ se hai. jisko bhook na lagne kii beemaarii ho use chaahiye k bas din raat sochaa kare!

[khubsoorat]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

lol…ab yeh naii bata me ko pataa chali k ‘bhook kaa ta’alluq soch’ se hai. jisko bhook na lagne kii beemaarii ho use chaahiye k bas din raat sochaa kare!

han na exams mein isi liye to sbko zyada bhook lgti hai kyun k demagh larana parta hai

[mahool]

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@khubsoorat

Meray pas b kashmiri shawl hai

What is difference between Kashmeeri and non Kashmeeri shawl?

[KKF]

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@khubsoorat

han na exams mein isi liye to sbko zyada bhook lgti hai kyun k demagh larana parta hai

haN, yeh baat to merii bhii aazmoodah hai…bhook to lagtii hai! chalo, tumhaarii hypothesis ko ham theory kaa darja diye dete haiN…say, “thank you!”

[mahool]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

bahot Khoob Mahool...kiskaa hai yeh she'r? :)

Shyer e Mashriq

[KKF]

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@mahool

Shyer e Mashriq

shukria...haN iskaa ek she'r mujhe kuchh yaad aa rahaa hai:

ram uskii tabii'at meN hai maanind-e-Ghazaalah

[muqawwee123]

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@mahool

Sarma Ki Hawaon Mein Hai Uryan Badan Uss Ka
Deta Hai Hunar Jis Ameeron Ko Doshala

In the bitter winds of winter, the poor labourer works in a naked body,
though his skill provides **shawls **to the rich.

Iqbal was a Kashmiri… so doshala is also popular in Kashmiri community :hmmm:

[KKF]

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@muqawwee123

Iqbal was a Kashmiri… so doshala is also popular in Kashmiri community

Iqbal Kashmiri the isse mujhe bachpane kii ek baat mazaaHiya baat yaad aayii:

jab mujhe pataa chalaa k Iqbal Kashmiri PanDit the to mujeh 'ajeeb saa lagaa k Iqbal to Musalmaan the phir yeh PanDit kaise huye? lol…phir sochaa ho saktaa hai mazhab badal diyaa ho!

aise hii maiN samajhtaa thaa k Punjabii sirf Sikh hote haiN…jab sunaa k Punjabi Musalmaan bhii hote haiN to mujhe yaqeen nahiiN aayaa!

[the_kaur]

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@Little Princess

I want kashmiri shawl

you should buy some, I won’t condemn you to Kashmir, that is reserved for special enemies

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

mubaarak ho…photo lagaayeN…

Indian Kashmir kii yaa Azad Kashmir kii? vaise, Indian Kashmir kii shawl hii mashhoor haiN.

Indian Kashmir comprises of all district of valley, ab azad jammu ko azad kashmir keh lein, bas dil khush karne ko khayal accha hai waise

@khubsoorat

Indian kashmir koi nhi hai
Azad kashmir ki

I will show this to my Saas

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

lol…ok ok…Indian-held [maqbooza] Kashmir kah lo!

like POK, kya drama hai yeh :D, kashmir sabka occupied hai but KOK (kashmiri occupied kashmir) nahi hai

@khubsoorat

keh loooo nhiiii, uska real naam he maqbooza kashmir hai.
uff had hai naam b change kr diya hmaray kashmir ka

Another post to show :D, thanks for this from my heart

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

Iqbal Kashmiri the isse mujhe bachpane kii ek baat mazaaHiya baat yaad aayii:

jab mujhe pataa chalaa k Iqbal Kashmiri PanDit the to mujeh 'ajeeb saa lagaa k Iqbal to Musalmaan the phir yeh PanDit kaise huye? lol…phir sochaa ho saktaa hai mazhab badal diyaa ho!

aise hii maiN samajhtaa thaa k Punjabii sirf Sikh hote haiN…jab sunaa k Punjabi Musalmaan bhii hote haiN to mujhe yaqeen nahiiN aayaa!

He was cousin of Sir tej bahadur sapru, there are many of these variety of Kashmiri, some are as recent of 1990, because there were three options for pandits, “raliv, galiv ya chaliv” means covert, die or escape

[muqawwee123]

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"raliv, galiv ya chaliv". lols. but sad at the same time. sons of soil suffered :(

[muqawwee123]

Re: Kashmir ki Shawl, Lucknow ka Doshala

@mahool

The word ‘shawl’ has different similar sounding terms in different languages e.g. in French, it is ‘chale’, in German, it is called ‘schall’ and in Italian, it is termed ‘scialle’ - all essentially meaning a square or a rectangular wrap, big enough to be draped around the shoulder, what is also commonly known as the ‘shoulder-mantle’.

When we say Pashmina or a Cashmere shawls, we are referring to the shawls spun out of the fine yarns made with fibers sourced from the discarded undercoats of Tibetan or Changthangigoats. They are also commonly known as ‘changra’ goats, which are found in the high altitude mountain ranges of these regions. The other known breeds, used to source pashmina/cashmere fibers are of Orenburg goats and Mongolian goats.Two main determinants of the quality in pashmina/cashmere are the fiber diameter and the staple length. For good quality, the manufacturers purchase material between 13 - 20 microns. To let you make a comparison, a human hair has a diameter of around 70 microns. When these fine fibers are spun into thread, a multitude of microscopic air-pockets are formed; it is these that give the material its extraordinary warmth and softness.It would be interesting to note that until well into the 19th century, when the ladies shawl became a high fashion item in the west, there had been similar products in use. According to pashmina shawl historian Moorcroft, there existed ‘do-shala’….long shoulder-mantles woven in pairs. These were used by noblemen of the times.

The do-shala shawl, often woven so cleverly that it is difficult to say that it has been joined/stitched together seam to seam!

Then there were ‘qasaba’ or ‘rumal’, large squares for women’s wear.

this particular rumal shows the moon motifs prevalent in those times!

Also, there were ‘shamla’ or ‘cummerbunds’, girdles for the waist, worn by Asiatics.

What a beautiful cummerbund it is…!

The modern term ‘jamawar’ popularly used in shawls today, originated from a particular type of all over design, which were tailored into ‘jama’, or various over-garments, worn by men e.g. -* ‘choga’, ‘angarkha’, ‘atamsukh’.*

The jama or choga using jamawar work, on which today’s jamawar shawls are based.

So the art of weaving a pashmina/cashmere shawl or a more popular stole or scarf, dates back to many centuries. In old times, it had various avatars e.g.‘rumal’, ‘jama’, ‘doshala’,‘cummerbund’. But the art of weaving a shawl/stole is still preserved in its original form when it is hand spun and hand woven. Though now-a-days, it is woven on power looms also. The art of adornment in the form of hand embroidery is still as painstakingly done, as in yore. The special embroidery technique of ‘kani’ is also being recognised today for its beauty and precision…though its design /*talim *is being computerised now…the actual work is still being done by hand.

Credit: Article retrieve from online blog and written by Nisha Singal

what about attire worn by Bohri ladies? Is it also a shawl?