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Hain jee? Reference please.

Khumar although you didn't ask guys, but I'll give my 99 cents any way. Mrs. didn't have a middle name, so she dropped her last name, took Sohail (my first name) as her middle name and took my last name (Arshad) as her last name. That's how we understood and asked the lady at the marriage office to do. However, due to limited space, she put "S. Arshad" as her new last name, instead of spelling it out.

She had been using her FirstName Sohail Arshad everywhere. Then one day we went to the social security office to have it changed on her social security card. They wrote FristName S. Arshad on the card. I asked her to spell it out so that we are certain that S stands for Sohail. The lady said that's not how it works. If the girl does not have a middle name, her pre-marriage last name becomes her middle name and her husband's last name becomes her last name (if she chooses to do it). So technically, I guess, her name is FirstName Shahid Arshad, not FirstName Sohail Arshad.

I really don't care because Government officials write Sohail and so does the IRS and other documents such as the diploma.

If you don't have a middle name, why don't you take your dad's name (or current last name, if different) as your MIDDLE name and take your hubby's name (first or last) as your last name? Why are you going with hyphen? Hyphen would make sense if you already have a middle name and want to keep it.

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If we were meant to change our last name Islamically then we would have been told to do so.

During the times of our beloved Prophet (SAW) women didnt change their last names. All the wives of the Prophet kept their father’s name…if it was wrong to do so then they would have changed it.

Perhaps I’ll consider hyphenating my last name when inshAllah I have kids so that we can look like we are all from the same family like Niksik mentioned. I’ll have to think about that when the time comes.

The Prophet (SAW) said: “Whoever calls himself by other than his father’s name (or attributes himself to someone other than his father), will be cursed by Allah, the angels and all the people.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 2599; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 6104).

The Prophet (SAW) said: “Allah has cursed the one who claims to belong to someone other than his father.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad and others).

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because by hyphenating it you are taking BOTH names as your last name. you are never called by your middle name....so you will never be called by your fathers name once you change it as such.

hyphenating just entitles you to keep your fathers name AND if you want to stick with the norm of western culture you can take your husbands name to look more like a family.

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I see. Makes sense.

Thanks for clarifying about the name change, I never knew that. Kind of late for us and I don't want to go through the same time again to change her name back to what it was before.

One question though: By hyphenating the name, aren't you still changing it and taking someone else's name? Yes it's true you are not losing your father's name but the entire last name is not remaining same either. Changing the last name makes things easier for a lot of purposes.

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no problem. :)

well no...you arent changing it...you are simply adding a name. your last name will be BOTH names...for example if someone was to send my husband and I a formal invitation the proper way of writing our names would be Mr. (blank) and Mrs. Khan-(blank) instead of Mr. and Mrs. (Blank) :D

so my maiden name will never be left out or at least it's not suppose to be.

I agree...it does make it easier which is why i think hyphenating it is like having the best of both worlds. That's probably what I'll end up doing.

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But that’s not the proper way to address a couple, as far as I understand, because when they address like this, that means last name is same for both. Your example illustrates that your hubby’s name is “Khan-Blank” as well. In my case, when they invivte Mr. and Mrs. Arshad, that is correct because that’s OUR last name. Wouldn’t the proper way be “Mr. Blank” and Mrs. Khan-Blank? :hmmm:

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isnt that what i said? :konfused:

edit: yes that is what i said :stuck_out_tongue:

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Just checking. Yes you ARE paying attention :emmy: Actually you said (blank) and I said blank. The difference is that (blank) means a negative blank and blank means just a regular positive blank. You want your relationship to be positive, don’t you?

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raza isnt a last name its a middle :smack:

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:rotfl:

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i am keeping my own last name INSHALLAH

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i dont know about taking the husband's first name... but i did 'add' my hubby's family name to the end of my original family name.. no hyphen or anything... kept my maiden name as my middle name and added hubby's family name...

i find it confusing, being in OZ for so long, to assume hubby's first name as my lastname, that would make my hubby have a different surname to our kids and me... hmm

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I kept my middle name which is my fathers and took on my husbands surname..both of us have the same initals and surname so whenever we get an invite its initials and surname...

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I changed my name to a totally different name .. beat that!
well the reason, his last name is very difficult and its his father's first name, so dont want to be called Mrs. (of his fathers name) so I changed it to his family tribe name.

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i havent changed my name, as yup, islam doesnt allow it. for those that have done so, cos i know rels that have, they just werent aware that theyre not supposed to.

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Can anyone explain...why its done the desi way? janab-e-ali, where art thou?