John Kerry For President

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*Originally posted by PurelyAvgGirl: *

I would like to see Dick Gephardt as Vice. Not only because he is from my home town, but because he has years of D.C. political experience.

And on taxes.. Absolutely if you have jobs you gain tax base. And.. taxes also IMHO can also be used to create jobs.

Real jobs. Real Progress.

Not bottom line profits for CEO's and pharmacuetical companies.

Jobs that repair infrastructure. Jobs that repair communities. Jobs with Justice that in return, in the long term benefit all.
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actually i was rooting for Gephardt from the beginning of this Democract nomination process - but his showing in Iowa hit bottom hard - it couldn't have been worst for Gephardt who won the Iowa caucauses back in 1988 - this time he used the same formula of blue collar workers - rallied like a football coach but to be honest - people in Iowa cared less about trade policies etc - and that ended the Gep's final triumph for presidency - i know he would have won in Missouri had he not dropped out of the race.

anyhow after Geppie - i started to support Kerry since both Kerry and Gephardt have worked in Washington over the years - even though i don't fully agree with him in all issues - but overall i am 80% in favor of him - you know what - people want change - people want to see new faces - and that's when came John Edwards from nowhere - Southern thing paid off!

Gephardt is an experience and highly regarded politician but when he couldn't get enough votes from his neighbor state Iowa - the state he has been worked for all his political life - how would it work all the way to November 2004?

this is where comes the 'Unknown political figure' - if Kerry decides to pick the VP who is hardly known even among the Democracts - it is always good in politics because people will pay more attention to your running mate - and to the party itself - i think Edwards will be a good nominee for VP as people have voted him best as "A Candidate who cares about me" in the primaries and caucauses - this is huge - i mean really really huge - where now Kerry has to pick it up fast very very fast - we will see how it unfolds.

oh - btw are you a Chiefs or Rams fan?

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*Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad: *

hmm there's nothing wrong with a policy based on national interest... every nation looks out for their better interest.. why shouldn't the US do the same?
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if its national interest that matters then words like morals,right worng, good,bad, justice, human rights must be thrown out of window.
then what was wrong if pakistan had backed taliban?
or iran helping alqaeda for that matter

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"Boston Brahmin" Kerry vs "Texas Bubba" Dubya Bush

Now that the final race is between Massachusetts senator "Boston Brahmin" John Kerry vs "Texas Bubba" Dubya Bush. Both are going neck to neck in polls.

Who would you'll vote?

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Pockets you replied...

*PAG, you seem to be buying into the liberal media - I'll post an article from a liberal who can't quite bring himself to lie about the economic recovery and a link - just for you! Let me know how many more you want! *

Just who is this so-called ecomonic recovery benefiting?

Everywhere I look it is called a recovery without job creation.

So seems to big business and investors might possibly benefit..and then I suppose will outsource some more jobs overseas, and then..wow...with lower overhead the investors will benefit, especially the large investors.

Not the puny average people like me.

And hey...GBJ allready gave em a tax break....so of course the weight of supporting America stills lies heaviest on the backs of those who can least afford the weight.

.. and all the while GBJ's cronnies and associates still keep doing their darndest to reform workmans comp, unemployment insurance and undermine Labor agreements....like osha and ersa.

So yeah...surely GBJ's agenda is aimed at improving the lives of the less fortunate..... Yeah Right....

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If you have a corporation your goal is to gain maximum profit, if you can invest into countries which will increase your profits more so than say by investing into the U.S. then you do so. Cheaper labor, cheaper land/factories, cheaper pollution controls (so you can rape the earth with worry of stiff penalties) this is free trade after all (don’t mention fair trade, that screws it all up).

Welcome to the world of GBJ, George Bush Junior, like father like son. PurelyAvgGirl, Bush promised a 2.6 million job growth for the U.S. to occur in 2004, so everything is going to be ok. Worried about the dollar being so low or interest rates being at 1% while the deficit soars to an all time high, why? After all Bush must be planning on an export recovery, right? Just back off and don’t worry about a thing or even think for that matter. Vote for Bush out of fear for god sakes (as long as it’s the right wing Christian god you’ll be okay). Welcome to the new world order, where the average American comes last.

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*Originally posted by Talha: *

Gephardt is an experience and highly regarded politician but when he couldn't get enough votes from his neighbor state Iowa - the state he has been worked for all his political life - how would it work all the way to November 2004?

oh - btw are you a Chiefs or Rams fan?
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Hi Talha,

I like the Rams and the Cards :)

Good point about Gephardt, your probobly right, and Gephardt did drop out of the race before Edwards did. Kerry does need a partner that will help to take the Dems to the whitehouse...

No onto the point made about Kerry as president would be bad for India.

I don't see how or why India being required to join the NPT is a bad thing?? I don't think thats unreasonable.

On the outsourcing of jobs... Yes I can understand the difficulty people in India might have with that. And I don't begrudge Indians jobs either.

It's just that its difficult seeing people lose jobs because they are outsourced to other countries to increase profits when the cost of living in the U.S. doesn't seem to be decreasing. People who lose thier work are often forced to accept lower pay which affects their standard of living.

Turn time back to the 1920's 1930's America... before labor reforms and protections when people were slaves to the companies they worked for, living in company housing and buying goods in the co. store..highly profitable to the employer and no escape for the average worker.

Gets me to thinking with continued and continued outsourcing of jobs.. eventually lead to serious social problems and increased crime because of substandard or lack of employment.

So with jobs going out....and none coming in....

Here we are dealing with the high price of incarcerating jobless folks instead of using that money to employ them, though I suppose there is profit to made by private business in the prison system..right off the backs of the remaining taxpayers.

Perhaps I am a bit on the dramatic side.... Perhaps not.

The idea of being a corporate slave gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

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I saw a clip of Kerry snowboarding this morning on the today show. He may just get my vote afterall. I converted (or is it reverted?) to snowboarding several years ago after having been a skier since the age of four. The difference is night and day as far as a harmonious feeling with the ground and the force of gravity.

Unless I hear that Bush plays volleyball, I'm in the Kerry camp. The fact is I cringe any time I hear him speak.

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*Originally posted by Stu: *
I saw a clip of Kerry snowboarding this morning on the today show. He may just get my vote afterall. I converted (or is it reverted?) to snowboarding several years ago after having been a skier since the age of four. The difference is night and day as far as a harmonious feeling with the ground and the force of gravity.

Unless I hear that Bush plays volleyball, I'm in the Kerry camp. The fact is I cringe any time I hear him speak.
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Stu,

I don't cringe when I hear him speak, but for the benefit of those who judge people on looks.....I think Kerry has sort of a funny face.

Is his face presidential? I hope so.

I think U.S. would be in better hands with Kerry at the helm over GBJ.

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*Originally posted by PurelyAvgGirl: *
Pockets you replied...

*PAG, you seem to be buying into the liberal media - I'll post an article from a liberal who can't quite bring himself to lie about the economic recovery and a link - just for you! Let me know how many more you want! *

Just who is this so-called ecomonic recovery benefiting?

Everywhere I look it is called a recovery without job creation.

So seems to big business and investors might possibly benefit..and then I suppose will outsource some more jobs overseas, and then..wow...with lower overhead the investors will benefit, especially the large investors.

Not the puny average people like me.

And hey...GBJ allready gave em a tax break....so of course the weight of supporting America stills lies heaviest on the backs of those who can least afford the weight.

.. and all the while GBJ's cronnies and associates still keep doing their darndest to reform workmans comp, unemployment insurance and undermine Labor agreements....like osha and ersa.

So yeah...surely GBJ's agenda is aimed at improving the lives of the less fortunate..... Yeah Right....
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PAG, I'm sorry that I don't buy into the bleeding heart liberal agenda.

I've mucked stalls, milked cows by hand, and picked fruit ... I've sold everything from calanders door to door and insurance ...I've driven limousines and served as a butler at private parties... I've entertained heads of state and worked with stars from Detroit, Hollywood and Nashville - and, more than I care to remember....

I've lived on bread and water, and, I've lived on champagne, lobster and steak...

I can read and speak english.... I don's use profanity in the course of normal conversation. I don't have any so-called "body art" nor do I sport any "hardware". My hair is not green, pink, or purple, nor do I look some newborn fresh from the womb whom no one cared enough to wipe up! I own a razor and use it upon occasion! ! I own a belt and do not need to let people see that I can afford underwear nor do I care if people can see that I can afford a designer label. My favorite word is not "Dude..." I am not among the "gender confused"....

I actually know how to tie a necktie! Even , (shudder), a bowtie!

Were I to find myself unemployed tomorrow, I would have a job in 30 days or less, if not a week. A JOB mind you, not a POSITION.

Americans, as a Nation, have forgotten from where we came. Hardwork and personal initiative are forgotten. People expect CEO wages and benefits for entry level work. Sounds like Socialism!

Kerry is a secular humanist - nothing more, nothing less. Should the lowest common denominator prevail and Kerry win the Presidency, it will be the beginning of the end of America! Let's face it, Clinton made a good start!

Peace To All Who Read This...

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…as if Bush hasn’t done anything to mark the beginning of the end of America… :rolleyes:

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*Originally posted by mrpockets: *

PAG, I'm sorry that I don't buy into the bleeding heart liberal agenda.

Kerry is a secular humanist - nothing more, nothing less.
Peace To All Who Read This...
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Dear heart (if you have one),

Firstly, what is wrong with a secular humanist?

Secondly, I have a bone to pick with the poster who claimed Kerry is bad for India.

Reason why is... ummm if your voting as an American citizen...I would think you would vote for the interests of the U.S. rather than India.

[No offenses intended upon Indians.]

Point is, if your voting, its your responsibility to vote in a way that best benefits your family and your views as an American citizen. Not what benefits your family at home in another country.

Thirdly,

So sorry you find my posts earmark me as liberal bleeding heart.

I apologize.

I know my heaart knows what is best for me and mine. GBJ and itinerary just doesn't pass muster.

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Just to follow-up on my preview comment re Kerry being a snowboarder, I saw another clip over the weekend of him skiing. I was just laughing because it's another example of how Kerry is squarely on both sides of an issue.

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I heard a story on the radio about Kerry insisting that he took his first ski run without reporters so he could get his “ski legs” under him. On his second run, he fell down in front of the reporters and cameramen. He was irate and insisted that he never falls down and blamed it on a secret service agent cutting him off and knocking him down. He supposedly screamed profanities at the guy.

Can you imagine. The secret service agent is a guy assigned to protect Kerry and stands ready, willing and able to take a bullet for him to protect his life. And Kerry screams profanities at him because he looked bad falling down in the snow while skiing. What a jerk!!! :nook:

It would have been pathetic if Gerald Ford screamed profanities at secret service agents everytime he fell down a flight of stairs.

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Stu - he is playing politics tho he sure knows not to run like a scary rabbit than Mr. President himself.

radio. :hehe: the conservative boys have only 8 months to live on air.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
I heard a story on the radio
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i'm sure you did.. they are full of stories about the 'french looking candidate' .. :)

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Talk about a jerk, when Bush was on David Letterman he used Daves female producer as a personal tissue using her sweater to wipe his glasses. He did this like it was a perfectly normal thing to do, they play the clip every so often, I’ll track it down and post it for you.

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here’s a still of Dubya using the woman as a tissue.

http://www.aquilaink.com/secret%20diary12.html

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^^

:rotfl:

underthedome - you da Man! :smiley:

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How bold of a move would be if Rep. McCain joined the Kerry ticket?

In a recent CBS News poll, a hypothetical Kerry-McCain ticket beat Bush and Cheney, 53% to 39%.

LA Times has a cover story in it in todays page.

WASHINGTON — John F. Kerry had more than half a dozen conversations with Sen. John McCain about the prospect of him joining the Democratic presidential ticket, but the Arizona Republican repeatedly told his longtime friend that he was not interested, according to an associate close to McCain

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It shows that John Kerry would truly like to bring the people of United States together to work with one another. It tells what the Kerry camp is about as a whole, working together opposed to Bush’s belief of ‘going it alone’, be it domestic issue or foreign ones.