still..
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give urself the credit u deserve
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i know a couple of ppl who had to come back(not that they were dumb but
whatever)
b/w 1 call/week wow
PS. how long did u delay ur graduation?(just curious)
***I dunno where I’m going. I dunno what for. But I’m making progress.
well after giving it a second thought and seeing that our seniors(Mr. Fraudia) also did the same thing realizing that it was a necessary thing to do for the then market..i guess delaying ur graduation is not a bad option..
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and yup taking double major option/minor option/dual major are good choices
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about the resume thing which i mentioned in my post..i guess as far as u are enrolled in the uni during those “extra semesters” for the options mentioned earlier, U ARE NOT WASTING UR TIME(in general and on ur resume too)and i doubt by seeing that the recruiters will consider this as a negative aspect..
besides when u are done with ur bs and u land up a job(inshallah) who cares how long did it take u to get done with ur degree
b/w what major are u in?
***I dunno where I’m going. I dunno what for. But I’m making progress.
Mr. Fraudia,
being in the business field and in the current market, how long do u think it might
take for the economy to atleast become steady? (i know its very hard to judge but still)
well according to what i have heard is that economy is on the rise right now..and will
be in a pretty good shape soon..
***I dunno where I'm going. I dunno what for. But I'm making progress.
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but for how long? which in turn might give a neg. impact on ur resume(if u know what i mean)
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Well in a resume you only state the date that you graduated on so the employer doesnt know how many years it took to complete your studies.
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** as far as i can remember u are in the business sector?
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Well Banking Information Technology sector and I love it. One thing I regret is not getting a master degree, but I am glad I have experienced the business world, we have a different pattern of higher education over here. It will take 4 years of part time evening studies to get a degree now, something I might think of completing somewhere in the future, if given an opportunity.
Saadia: Which area in banking do you work in? Retail, Commercial or IBD?
CH: in simple words, I work in the system environment, designing and planning applications on the mainframe/host with various tools. What does IBD stands for?
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**Mr. F, a quick question.
I understand that work experience is normally a requirement for most business schools. Does internship/co-op experience count towards that?**
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depends on the business experience. All internships are not created equal. in my case I had a year and a half of work experience and internships every summer for fairly large companies which directly pertained to my field. I was told that the work experience was a little less than what they were lookign for but the leadership and activities during undergrad, the GMAT score and the recommendation letters (I had one from the state governer's office) made up for that.
it sucks!
"The Hour will not come ... until nearly thirty "dajjals" (liars) appear, each one claiming to be a messenger from Allah." (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)
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Originally posted by heart beat:
**Mr. Fraudia,
being in the business field and in the current market, how long do u think it might
take for the economy to atleast become steady? (i know its very hard to judge but still)
well according to what i have heard is that economy is on the rise right now..and will
be in a pretty good shape soon..
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dude you have not heard the joke about economists. i.e. an economist is a person who will tell you tomorrow about what happened yesterday and why. That is pretty much it.
If i had to hazard a guess on the economy, I would say mid 2003. Not just a view on the economy, but economy and the marketplace.
I had been involved in some projects involving large cost reduction planning, which included headcount reductions. Just by the number of companies we were doign that for, and number of other companies we bid on but did not win, yet know that someone else is doing it, I am afraid but there will be more cuts in some major companies in the coming months.
It does not mean that opportunities are not there or will not be there, but for more specific skill sets.
as far as delaying your graduation. if its a year or so, it would not matter. I have never been questioned about it.
Saadia: I was refering to the investment banking side or securities side of the "Banking" world.
Anyway, it would be worthwhile for you to try to move into the mid-office or even the BA functions of the front office to get greater visibility and improve your career path. (if you so desire)
CH: I think, it's a coperative kind of commercial bank. The thing is, I am interested into getting into project management & controlling field or concentrating into being system consultant. The agony is that I haven't decided what I like more!
I do have desire to improve and move further, thought there are chances to do that at my present company, but they are rather slow and will take a relative long time, whereas I have been offered a job position in Switzerland for another company with being alone responsible for a 'stocks' project that I have been dealing together with 6 other people at the present. More I will have to learn UNIX and some other system related stuff and first 6 months will be concentrated mainly on education.
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Chaltahai
i-Banking has been hit particularly bad. I know of severalinvestment banker buddies of mine who are out looking for jobs.
I am not suprised, America’s economy was never stable like europeans.
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My company is hiring more and more people.
and where did you get your economics education? I would suggest you go back and re-read it.
In school and college.
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I did, but the meaning did not change by re-reading it.
saadia job market and economy are inter related but not quite the same thing.
Its easier to downsize and lyoff in US than in europe based on severance requirements etc. That much is true.
But then it is easier in US to move about as well.
btw: your books are wrong
Fraudz: My response to Saadia wasn't based on comparison to retail/commercial vis-a-vis i-banking. It was more geared to project a future career path into the front office activities of banking in general.
If given the opportunity to move into the front or mid office early n one's career. One should jump on it. Otherwise, a java guy is just a java guy. But if a java guy knows about the functional aspects of banking, his combined business and tech knowledge will yield greater boons.
chalta hai. 100% agreed on that. backoffice is important but for many a move to the fornt office means exposure to the bigger picture, ability to build a more diverse skill set and to be more of a leader.