Israeli wanted over Dubai killing 'held in Poland'

[The_Old_Man]

As per Bible, before the end of times, israel would make peace with arabs

Can you for interest give the reverence please?

Thank-You

[Ambassador1]

@Aceones

Ambassador1: first of all, you are going off topic, my comment was only to express objection on you saying " all the pak based tele-coms / ISPs are gulf owned now" and that’s it. and to support my objection i gave one line comment about each mobile operator and it was supposed to be enough. but now when you raised more questions, it only goes to show that you were really making things up. here are answers to your questions, and after this no more off topic posts from me on this

Aceones!,
I was not asking those questions to offend you. And yes except for the telenore recently jumping a place up to attaining a a bigger marketshare news, I still believe that the people’s communication data in Pakistan is not safe. And I am not making things up. If you dont like to believe, I do not have a problem. And I would not insist you to respond. That’s your choice.

@Aceones

http://www.ameinfo.com/80159.html
and no matter if they own the management or not, the screening/ filtering is still done by PTA

when did i say its not? 26% share of etisalat (gulf) in PTCL and ownership of warid by abu dhabi holding (gulf), does not make it “all the telcoms in pakistan”

Aceones!
You sat that the screening / filtering is still done by PTA. Tell me honestly, do you believe the present & the previous government officials are/were really not involved in any kind of crimes against the people of Pakistani? Can you say for sure that the way they are running Pakistan / government departments is in the best interest of Pakistan? & regarding the ownership of PTCL, I happened to have a short meeting with someone who was involved in negotiation of this purchase at the time of PTCL privatization. As per what I know, etisalat was negotiating a deal for 100% ownership. I am not sure when that was turned into 26% instead of 100%.

PTCL consists of all the fixed telephones lines at homes & offices all over Pakistan, all the DSL internet services for homes & businesses, all the ufone mobile services in Pakistan. Warid (abu dhabi group - what abu dhabi group is it, anyway?) consists of all the warid mobile services & Wateen (Which I had forgotten to mention earlier) broadband internet services. Worldcall is owned by some Oman based telecom. I see somewhere down below in your post that worldcall also offers some local mobile phone services, so does that mean those services also come under the ‘gulf owned’ (omanTel) umbrella?

@Aceones

so you just thought… ok you were wrong, mobilink is owned by orascom

Yeah I was wrong to think that mobilink mobile services were under the PTCL umbrella. When I was new in Pakistan, I somehow believed that mobilink was PTCL’s mobile services for the business users & ufone was for kids / youngsters.

@Aceones

many… why? if you doubt its owned by china, zong is just a product, the operator is CMPak, which is owned by China Mobile.

Oh dear, to be honest, I would not care about a chinese company having access to my private information but I would have concerned if my confidential & private information is in hands of an arab own company. I do not trust dubaiins, simple. why I said that was because so many people I know (including myself) bought various zong packages but switched back to their older providers because of dissatisfaction. I guess zong has now recently started a huge - mainly advertising based - campeign to promote their packages. People are starting to buy their services now but I am not sure if they have also been improved & their new clientele would stick.

@Aceones

you are again wrong here… there you go… Telenor Becomes Second Largest Cellular Company of Pakistan
as of 2008, telenor had become the 2nd largest cellular company in pakistan, mobilink 1st, ufone 3rd and warid 4th
since then number of mobilink customers are on a constant drop, if you ever visit to pakistan and spend some time there you will come to know.

@Aceones

there are other small WLL/CDMA operators (eg: WorldCall and few others i dont remember names). some of them operates (wired and wireless payphones) only in rural areas where other companies do not have good coverage

Fine, that was new information.
Okay you mentioned worldcall. Are you aware that it is also owned by soem oman based telecom?

@Aceones

ok if its news to you, what was the source of information based on which you said that all telcoms in pakistan provide information to israel? you accused them first, so you are supposed to provide link. a little googling will easily reveal all this, so go google

Aceones!
You expect to find this kind of information on the internet? Remember, many things about which I write here is not common knowledge. If that fact was widely known, wouldnt the concerned authorities take some action to stop that? Only a thorough investigation can reveal that. But given how indian RAW’s involved in destabilizing Pakistan’s different regions (balouchistan, sindh, NWFP & now FATA) is strictly kept from reaching a common Pakistani, do you think this kind of information would be revealed by the authorities? The whole Pakistani nation is lost enjoying bollysh!t. Maybe they fear waking them up from the bollysh!t fantasies, unite & become soldiers in their own place against the same bollysh!t land? Look at a random Pakistani. What are they concerned about more? Bollysh!t or Pakistan? Im sure you know the answer.

@Aceones

most of the internet services are either directly owned by these large operators or they use their backbone, eg: link.net uses orascom (mobilink) multinet = ptcl and others. internet filtering is done under govt’s supervision by PTA and other agencies

Again, do you trust the way present leaders are running the government department?

@Aceones

i guess now its more than enough : )
if not do check out Pakistan’s profile at opennet
Pakistan | OpenNet Initiative

Thanks for the link.

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Conclusion: Hopefully zong (china) will take more marketshare away from gulf owned telecoms just like telenore (egypt) has recently done in the mobile services. but what about all the fixed telephone lines all over pakistan for home & business users by PTCL (uae owned), internet data by PTCL (uae owned), Wateen (abu dhabi owned), Worldcall (oman owned)? all of that private information of pakistani citizens remains with gulf owned companies including large marketshare of their mobile services (Ufone, Warid & some local CDMA services by Worldcall).

[Ambassador1]

Hello, T-O-M,

The following is the part from the Bible which refers to a peace treaty between israel & arabs before the end of times & before the arrival of the Christ & anti Christ as per a Christian friend of mine:

"Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate.'' Daniel 9.27

If you’re a scholar or know of any scholars, maybe you can provide yours or other scholars perspective on this.

@The_Old_Man

Can you for interest give the reverence please?

Thank-You