Re: Israeli forces have killed nearly 100 Hezbollah fighters
Strange logic. If every five Lebanese are homeless than it should be obvious that Lebanese lost.
Israel would lose only if every 5th Israeli is homeless.
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You out of all people should not be saying this. Rotfl!!!!
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Israel would lose only if every 5th Israeli is homeless.
You really have lost it, there was a point when you used to have some point(s) in your posts.
Re: Israeli forces have killed nearly 100 Hezbollah fighters
I read somewhere that Israel lost 9 soldiers in a single day recently. I believe the total is at least 30 soldiers dead so far....hence Israel has not launched a ground invasion and the cowards are going to continue to bomb.
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were the 30 soldiers (the count could very well go up) less than worth the 2 soldiers?
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no, less worth than the principle
which is you can infiltrate into Israel kidnap Israeli soldiers and then bargain for the release of palestinian and lebanese terrorists
the man that hezbollah wants released is a lebanese terrorist who in 1978 came ashore with his terrorist team went into an apartment building took a man and his daughter on to the beach.
Shot the father to death infront of the girl and then used his rifle's butt to smash the girl's skull instantly killing the 4 year old girl.
And this is the barbarian that Hezbollah wants released.
So Israel has said, that if you do this again, the country will burn
Hamas and Hezbollah will never do anything like this again
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Principle of killing innocent civilians
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for the release of palestinian and lebanese terrorists
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So now innocent men and women, along with children, without any trial who are continued to be tortured in Israeli jails are now terrorists?
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Shot the father to death infront of the girl and then used his rifle's butt to smash the girl's skull instantly killing the 4 year old girl.
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Still no proof or evidence for this.
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the only innocent civilians that conform to your view are only arab…
Jews are legitimate targets
not that innocent. most were either carrying weapons past israeli check points or on their way to commit suicide bombings inside Israel. Israel has stopped 90% of all suicide bombings so naturally its jails are filled with would be terrorists.
I already pasted a news article about him
let me do it again…
Hizballah Wants Israel to Free Child-Killer
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
July 18, 2006
(CNSNews.com) - The Arab prisoner that Hizballah wants Israel to release in exchange for two abducted Israeli soldiers, is serving multiple life sentences for killing a four-year-old girl with a rifle butt.
Samir Kuntar is one of only two or three Lebanese prisoners still held by Israel, and Hizballah said its July 12 assault is aimed at winning his freedom.
The terrorists killed eight Israeli soldiers and seized Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, taking them back over the border. Their whereabouts and condition remain unknown.
The Shi’ite group dubbed the raid Operation True Promise (Al-Wa’ad Al-Sadeq), saying it was making good on an earlier pledge to continue to capture Israeli soldiers and use them to obtain the release of the remaining Lebanese in Israeli jails.
Since the raid, the conflict has escalated, with Israel launching an air assault on Lebanese infrastructure and Hizballah targets and Hizballah firing hundreds of missiles into Israel.
The fighting and loss of life have swung some attention away from the hostage issue, and Hizballah leader Hassan Nasrallah said in an address late last week that “the battle today is no longer a battle over prisoners or the exchange of prisoners.”
Nonetheless, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said during a televised address to the nation Monday night that he kept photographs of Goldwasser and Regev - along with one of another soldier, Gilad Shalit, kidnapped by Hamas in a June raid across the Gaza-Israel frontier - on his desk as a daily reminder of his mission.
“We will do everything in our power to ensure their safe release and bring them back home,” he said.
In past years, Israel has succeeded in winning freedom for captured soldiers, or the return of missing soldiers’ remains, but only by negotiating exchanges involving large numbers of Arab prisoners.
In the most recent of these highly controversial swaps, in January 2004, Israel handed over more than 400 Lebanese and Palestinian detainees in return for one Israeli businessman and the bodies of three soldiers abducted along the Lebanon border in 2000.
That exchange left just two Lebanese prisoners in Israeli jails - Kuntar and a man named Nasim Nesser. (Lebanon claims a third man, named as Yehya Sekaf, is also being held, although Israel denies this.)
Lebanese media refer to Kuntar as the “dean” of Lebanese prisoners in Israel. He has been in prison for 28 years, and Hizballah wants him out.
Although Kuntar was jailed for an attack launched by a Lebanon-based Palestinian terrorist group before Hizballah was even established, Hizballah depicts itself as the vanguard of the Islamic campaign against Israel and regards winning freedom for the prisoners a “sacred duty.”
A website set up by family members says Kuntar was jailed “for killing several Israelis in a raid on northern Israel.”
Israeli media and eyewitness accounts of the incident provide much more detail. Kuntar was one of a four-man group that crossed into Israel by sea, sent on the mission by the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), an affiliate of Yasser Arafat’s PLO.
In the coastal town of Nahariya, the terrorists shot dead a policeman and forced their way into an apartment building, where they captured Danny Haran and his daughter, Einat, 4.
While the terrorists rampaged through the apartment, firing weapons and detonating grenades, Haran’s wife Smadar hid in a crawlspace above the couple’s bedroom together with their other daughter, two-year-old Yael, and a neighbor.
In an effort to prevent Yael from crying out and alerting the terrorists to their whereabouts, Smadar kept her hand over the child’s mouth, and accidentally smothered her to death.
Meanwhile Kuntar and his group took Danny and Einat Haran to the beach.
“There, according to eyewitnesses, one of them shot Danny in front of Einat so that his death would be the last sight she would ever see,” Smadar wrote later.
“Then he smashed my little girl’s skull in against a rock with his rifle butt. That terrorist was Samir Kuntar.”
Strategic mistake
Israeli police shot dead two of the terrorists. Kuntar and the remaining man were tried and imprisoned. The other man was released as part of a May 1985 prisoner exchange - 1,150 Arab terrorists for three Israeli prisoners-of-war held in Lebanon - but Kuntar was not included in the deal.
Several months later, the PLF seized the Achille Lauro, an Italian cruise ship, demanding that Israel release Kuntar, along with other Palestinian prisoners. The hijackers killed a wheelchair-bound American Jewish passenger, Leon Klinghoffer.
Kuntar remains in jail and has been hailed as a hero among Israel’s enemies. The Palestinian Authority last March announced it was giving the Lebanese-born prisoner honorary Palestinian citizenship.
Hizballah repeatedly has agitated for the release of Kuntar, and after the January 2004 prisoner exchange, vowed not to rest until it had done so.
Addressing a large Shi’ite gathering last February, Nasrallah declared: “We are working on making this year the year to free our brothers in Israeli detention - Samir Kantar and his friends.”
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has made it clear that Israel will not back down this time - but so has Nasrallah.
At a press conference in Beirut’s southern suburbs last week, reported on Hizballah’s website, he said of the Israelis: “What do they want us to do? Hand over the soldiers and apologize? What kind of world are they living in?”
Israelis remember the huge controversy sparked by the 2004 prisoner exchange, brokered by Germany.
An opinion poll by the Ma’ariv daily found the country split down the center - 44 percent of respondents favored the exchange while 43 percent were opposed.
As the debate raged, Ely Karmon of the Institute for Counter-Terrorism wrote that it would be a strategic mistake.
“Hizballah will be strengthened politically, psychologically and, in the final analysis, strategically, too. It will strengthen Hizballah inside Lebanon, in the Palestinian arena, and in the Muslim world, and thereby turn it into a model for admiration and imitation.”
Rabbi David Golinkin, president of the Schechter Institute of Jewish Studies in Jerusalem, associated with the Jewish Conservative movement, commented on the “lopsided” prisoner exchange from a religious perspective.
After exploring the Jewish concept of “pidyon shvuyim” (the redemption of captives) and arguments by scholars about the value of life and the importance of ransoming those held captive, he concluded that “the public takes precedence over the individual, even if this endangers the individual.”
“Exchanging hundreds or thousands of terrorists for one Israeli encourages kidnapping of Israelis, and frees hundreds or thousands of terrorists who will pick up their weapons and attack Israel,” Golinkin said.
“In other words, it endangers the public and should not be done.”
What heroic actions
Re: Israeli forces have killed nearly 100 Hezbollah fighters
the man that hezbollah wants released is a lebanese terrorist who in 1978 came ashore with his terrorist team went into an apartment building took a man and his daughter on to the beach.
Shot the father to death infront of the girl and then used his rifle's butt to smash the girl's skull instantly killing the 4 year old girl.
I assume you witnessed this incident. It must be hard for you to stand there and watch the little girl's skull getting crushed. What was your reaction? Did you let the cops know? Did you notify the newspaper? Perhaps they could have shed light on this incident.
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So if you write about palestinians being killed by Israelis, I should assume you witnessed that as well?
from all the comments that have been posted on gupshup, yours ranks as one of the most absurd
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You know nothing about my views.
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most were either carrying weapons past israeli check points or on their way to commit suicide bombings inside Israel. Israel has stopped 90% of all suicide bombings so naturally its jails are filled with would be terrorists.
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And where is your evidence?
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I already pasted a news article about him
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One biased article does not equal evidence. Try again.
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I think the Israelis will think twice before attacking Lebanon again....already they have delayed the ground invasion due to tougher than expected resistance from Hizbullah.30 Israeli soldiers killed by a militia organisation fighting against an army is not bad going at all in anyones book.
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I expected as much.....
When you are confronted with facts you retreat to your fiction land
is it any wonder why the arab world is in such a terrible state
lastly, Israel will never release this beast
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What facts? LOL. Continue your deranged rantings.
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Sharon or Olmert, which one are you?
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mercenary2k and others;
I dont know who brain washed you guys, but my guess is that living in North america may have done some damage, as serious lack of knowledge of the situation is vivid all over your posts.
Noam Chomsky’s words . may trigger some thoughts :
Israel, Lebanon, and Palestine
The latest chapter of the conflict between Israel and Palestine began when Israeli forces abducted two civilians, a doctor and his brother, from Gaza. An incident scarcely reported anywhere, except in the Turkish press. The following day the Palestinians took an Israeli soldier prisoner - and proposed a negotiated exchange against prisoners taken by the Israelis - there are approximately 10,000 in Israeli jails.
That this “kidnapping” was considered an outrage, whereas the illegal military occupation of the West Bank and the systematic appropriation of its natural resources - most particularly that of water - by the Israeli Defence (!) Forces is considered a regrettable but realistic fact of life, is typical of the double standards repeatedly employed by the West in face of what has befallen the Palestinians, on the land alloted to them by international agreements, during the last seventy years.
Today outrage follows outrage; makeshift missiles cross sophisticated ones. The latter usually find their target situated where the disinherited and crowded poor live, waiting for what was once called Justice. Both categories of missile rip bodies apart horribly - who but field commanders can forget this for a moment?
Each provocation and counter-provocation is contested and preached over. But the subsequent arguments, accusations and vows, all serve as a distraction in order to divert world attention from a long-term military, economic and geographic practice whose political aim is nothing less than the liquidation of the Palestinian nation.
This has to be said loud and clear for the practice, only half declared and often covert, is advancing fast these days, and, in our opinion, it must be unceasingly and eternally recognised for what it is and resisted.
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which is you can infiltrate into Israel kidnap Israeli soldiers and then bargain for the release of palestinian and lebanese terrorists
Do you have to be shown the news same number of times that it was Israeli armymen in Lebanon same number of times that you watch CNN/Fox to sink in?
EDIT: I see CNSNEWS in the new source now.
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EDIT: I see CNSNEWS in the new source now.
captain saab, why did u remove my post in regards to the news article about the lebanese prisoner and what he did?
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^ I don't know which one you are talking about, may be someone else did that on my behalf. What was the news source/topic etc?