lets face it. If palestine was to openly declare a war against Israel, the amerikans and whatever other guilty-minded westerners would step in; if you think the israelis are cruel, then see what happens when amerika steps in to protect its favourite country. 3000 Palestinians is alot, but 10 000 is alot more.
Albeit sad to say, the palestinians are just going to have to keep struggling and being slaughtered generation by generation until amerika is too weak or preocupied with the proletarian revoluntion (for which they are VERY long overdue) to do anything.
Just hang in there. Israel was a doomed nation since its birth... analogy: throw a mouse into a cage full of long-starved cats, then keep the cats at bey by giving the mouse weapons to kill the cats' kittens. The mouse will survive a while, but not forever.
Again it was Arafat who turned away from talking and took to killing, Israel then responded by killing those who attacked them or those who support/Aided the terror organizations.
Sharon has stated that a Palestinian state will exist within a peace agreement. Hamas rejects all peace agreements with Israel.
Barak was too spineless to carry on talking with an election around the corner, and then Sharon came to power who unleashed an orgy of killing which has led to the thousands of Palestinian dead, including close to 500 kids.
Now as I asked before. Does the Likud party which is the lead party of government in Israel, still hold to the position that it is against the establishment of a Palestinian state? Yes or No?
So the offer put up by Barak wasn't what the Palestinians were looking for, what did Arafat put up? This it is what negotiations are all about, hammering out a deal. What Arafat did put up was violence and Sharon was elected in response to that violence.
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What Arafat did put up was violence and Sharon was elected in response to that violence.
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Who has killed more in the last three years - the Israelis or the Palestinians? Who has killed nearly 500 Palestinian children?
Does the Likud party which is the lead party of government in Israel, still hold to the position that it is against the establishment of a Palestinian state? Yes or No?
P.S. Read the links above. The Palestinians considered the plans as a basis for continued negotiations, whilst Barak the spineless one walked away.
Thankfully, Palestinians have been pretty inept homicide bombers. They are notorious for blowing themselves up and no one else in their zeal to murder civilians. They have also been pretty good at blowing up Muslims while targetting Jews. Not that they haven't tried to kill as many Jews as possible. They just aren't good at a lot of things - including blowing themselves up at the precise moment to kill the most Jewish bus riders or pizza munchers as possible. So a head count on how many were killed by which side does not prove who is in the right.
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Thankfully, Palestinians have been pretty inept homicide bombers.
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As incompetent as the Israeli army's bombers who go after one or two "militants" yet infrequently end up butchering scores of women, children and babies at the same time.
But if you think the killing of 3000 Palestionians, including close to 500 kids is nothing to condemen, then so be it. Keep on making excuses...
I'm not making any excuses, I have condemned Israeli military actions. But if you think the butchering of hundreds of Israeli women, children and babies is nothing to condemn, then so be it. Please continue with your excuses and blind support for homicide bombers who need a 'spiritual' leader to lead them to mass murder...
So you condemn the Israeli army killing 3000 Palestinians, including some 500 kids without any sort of excuses?
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Do you condemn the butchering of hundreds of Israeli civilians by homicide bombers?
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I'm not making any excuses, I have condemned Israeli military actions. But if you think the butchering of hundreds of Israeli women, children and babies is nothing to condemn, then so be it. Please continue with your excuses and blind support for homicide bombers* who need a 'spiritual' leader to lead them to mass murder...**
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...erm not any more, the actions of Ariel Sharon are suffice.
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Do you condemn the butchering of hundreds of Israeli civilians by homicide bombers?
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Yes.
I see you have failed to condemn the butchering of thousands upon thousands of Palestinian civilians, including some 500 kids. Then again I remember what you once posted about the whole Palestinian nation...hence your inability to condemn the crimes of Zionist war criminals.
I detest Israel's military actions and most of their security measures. While I believe they started from a righteous position their handling of the situation has gotten worse and worse and does nothing to promote peace between the peoples of the region.
Well it needs to be looked at case by case Malik. If Israel is taking out terrorist organizations and slugs like Yassin that shouldn't be condemned. When Children are killed yes that should condemned, unless they have a bomb strapped to them.
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Well it needs to be looked at case by case Malik. If Israel is taking out terrorist organizations and slugs like Yassin they those shouldn't be condemned. When Children are killed yes that should condemned, unless they have a bomb strapped to them.
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Well you see underthedome it needs to be looked at a case to case basis. Every Israeli soldier and adult settler is a legitimate military target for the Palestinians, so such criminals should be wiped out, and no one will condemn that or should have to. Some may even say that every Israeli adult is a legitimate target as well, as they are all trained in military service, where they invariably end up in oppressing the Palestinians at one stage or another. When children are killed, that should always be condemned.
Well you see underthedome it needs to be looked at a case to case basis. Every Israeli soldier and adult settler is a legitimate military target for the Palestinians, so such criminals should be wiped out, and no one will condemn that or should have to. Some may even say that every Israeli adult is a legitimate target as well, as they are all trained in military service, where they invariably end up in oppressing the Palestinians at one stage or another. When children are killed, that should always be condemned.
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Not only every settler is a target but any one who supports a terrorist govt must also be a target. The rules are simple... Just wait and see the screaming, ranting and raving when hamas hits back.
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52 years of this thinking has gotten us here so whats another 52 ehh?
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heheh it adds up to few more states with uranium and plutonium rods especially those who are Israels chums... LOL.... I see a solution not too far away. :D