Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
The U.S can support Israel all it likes. We all should know that the U.S is controlled by the Jews.
However the Arabs are not going to remain weak forever and the U.S power is in a decline. These factors will eventually weaken Israel. Israel needs peace more than the Arabs in the long run but in the short run is playing tough to put itself into a strong bargaining position.
The Arab today are not the same Arabs as in 1967.
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I agree! The Arabs today are much worse off and more divided than those in 1967. The only exception is Dubai and that happens to be the staunch pro-West.
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Israel holds thousands of illegal prisoners which range in ages from 8 year olds to 15 year olds…It targets and kills on a regular basis innocent men, women and children…It bombs orphanages, destroys the infrastructure, subdues and commits tremendous wrongs against humanity, has broken more than 60 UN resolutions, commits blatant human rights violations on inidigenous population has the unconditional support of the US…Predictable…
The Palestinians and Lebanese sieze three Israeli army personnel and the US is indignant and cites human rights and Geneva convention violations…Also predictable…
This imbalance of power cannot last forever…Watch and see…Too much blood of innocents has been spilled by this nation…It must be brought to account…And it will…And it will be Muslims who will bring it to account :insha:…
At his time, Muslims just gather their dead and bury them and put up a weak resistance…But Muslims are watching the innocent die around them…
This will not be forgotten and will be reminded :insha:…
Muslims have always risen when the going has been most tough fromt he time our Holy Prophet :saw: faced an army of thousands with only 300 men…It has been proven again and again…Hatred against us brings us more closer and drives out the hypocrites from amongst us like cockroaches…
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^
I think this same thing was said 50 years ago.
Yes, use all your energy and focus on getting back at Israel, it has brought forward the Muslim world so far hasn't it?
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OK, lets’ start at the beginning. First, Bermuda is not a US territory.
:omg:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=181674&highlight=Bermuda
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Rockets have now landed on 20 Israeli towns - how humiliating for the zionists.
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Most of whom are alleged suicide bombers caught before they could attack Israel. Hamas and other terrorists use children as children as easier to infiltrate through israeli check points.
It targets and kills Terrorists. Your claim about killing innocent men, women and children are all caught in cross fires. Israel has absolutely no intention of killing innocent Palestinian children but Hamas has every intention of killing Israeli children.
The orphanages and other infrastructure are used by Hamas Terrorists to hide their weapons and are used as places for meetings and planning terrorist attacks inside Israel. Even Hospitals which are no go areas even for Hamas terrorists are now being used as places to meet since every other area where Hamas Terrorists meet has been bombed. Hamas brought the war to these areas not the Israelis.
Most of these resolutions have been introduced by Anti-Israeli countries which there are many. USA supports Israel because no other country can support another country which is at War with all of its neighbours and other regional powers. If it was not for US support, Israel cannot maintain its large military and could have been overrun by Arab Armies.
US should and continue to support Israel as long as most of its neighbours are hell bent on War and its destruction.
They siezed them as bargaining chips. And what country on this planet can tolerate that its soldiers are siezed and will be returned if Israel releases Terrorists from its jails.
Can Pakistan accept that the BLA siezing 3 Pakistani soldiers and then asks Pakistan to release BLA members?
And how do you propose they do that?
Saudi Arabia has just blamed Hezbollah for starting this conflict with Israel.
The imbalance of power is negated when not used properly. Israel uses forces correctly where as Hamas and Hezbollah just go blindly attacking Israelis without looking at the bigger consequences.
And also realizing that it was Hamas and Hezbollah who brough this harsh response from Israel.
If Hamas had any brains then when Hamas got elected, It could have recognized Israel’s right to exist. Started peace talks with Israel. Stopped firing rockets at Israel. Forced Islamic Jihad and other militant groups to disarm. Worked with the Israelis as the plan to withdraw from the West Bank by 2010. Negotiate the future of Jerusalem. Force a peace negotiations between Syria and Israel and then condemn the comments and disassociate themselves from Iran’s President’s comments.
They could have achieved a lot and brought peace to their people.
But they instead choose a path of death and destruction for their people.
You reap what you sow.
Yes, Muslims with Prophet Muhammed won the first Battle but lost the 2nd one. So just because you are Muslim doesnt mean you can be as stupid as you want and just because you are Muslim things will work for you.
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Yes quite humiliating.
IDF is striking Hezbollahs strong hold in the southern suburb of Beirut, it warned residents severla hours ago to leave. Bet Hezbollah wished they rethought about going through with their little operation a few days ago.
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What can you expect from the Terrorist State of Israel, but terrorism?
When Hamas reacts to the Terrorist State of Israel, its retaliation.
The Terrorist State of Israel’s reaction is not to protect itself, even a kid would tell you that. The reaction is disproportionate, and they can get away with it cuz Uncle Sam supports them.
With US tax-payers money, anyone can do it if they get supported like that.
I told you, you needed a history class. The Palestinian people have been oppressed by The Terrorist State of Israel long before Hamas existed. The Terrorist State of Israel in the wrong, by occupying lands unjustly, leave the lands and there will be peace.
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…and stupid.
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**Hezbollah humiliates the mighty Israeli army once again **
Israel, which boasts the strongest military in the Middle East, has been dealt another humiliating blow with the latest capture and killing of its soldiers by militants, leaving top brass red-faced. A columnist in Israel’s leading Haaretz newspaper labelled the seizure of two soldiers by Hezbollah guerrillas in a deadly border attack on Wednesday a “ringing failure” for the army. But senior officers have been quick to point the finger at the political echelon, headed by a premier and defence minister with little personal military experience, whom they charge have shied away from tough action. In all, three Israeli soldiers have been snatched and 11 killed by militants on two fronts – the Gaza and Lebanese borders – in barely three weeks. While Israel was licking its wounds and waging a massive offensive in the Gaza Strip following the abduction of an Israeli soldier in a deadly Palestinian attack, a second blow hit the army on the northern border.
In broad daylight, Hezbollah guerrillas blew a hole in the electric fence on the border, infiltrated one of the most heavily militarised areas in the region, ambushed two army jeeps, shot dead three soldiers, snatched another two and fled unharmed. It was an hour before the military command realised two servicemen had gone missing. Another five soldiers were killed in the ensuing rescue effort, which has so far failed to recover the missing servicemen despite a massive ground, air and sea assault. Reserve Major General Doron Almog admitted that the Israel Defence Forces had been caught off guard – again. **“Hezbollah succeeded to surprise an IDF force in a well-planned ambush. This dragged Israel into a new crisis,” **he said.
A military source involved in Israel’s operation in Lebanon admitted commanders where “extremely frustrated” with the success of the Hezbollah attack. “We shouldn’t wait one second and deal Hezbollah such a painful blow that it will not lift its head up for years,” the officer said on condition on anonymity. Although the army has not yet conducted an inquiry into Wednesday’s incident, Mark Heller from the Jaffe Centre for Strategic Studies said he saw several shortcomings on the military and government levels. **“On the strategic level, Israel’s deterrence has been undermined by the two attacks – people are not so afraid of Israel as they used to be because Israel has contrained itself due to international pressure.” **
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel’s response (threads)
I think this thread has officially turned into a joke with the above statement.
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Goodness, so anxious to claim Israel is humiliated by this band of terrorists funded by the terrorist regime of Iran. You may to at least wait until the Hezbollah terrorists stop running for their lives from the mighty Israeli military. They wanted a battle and now they have one.
As stated above, any failures by the Israeli military, now or in previous encounters with Hezbolla, is because of the international pressure. Egged on by the very crybabies who want to say Israel is humiliated because they show restraint.
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No, I think it was officially started with this one
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Somebody definitely needs to open their eyes.
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You forget that Israel spent 20 years trying to beat Hezbollah, but in the end gave up and ran from Lebanon themselves. Hezbollah had wasted 400 Israeli soldiers as well in those years.
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Body bags, body bags.
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Hizbollah - claim that they have been negotiating for the release of more than 10,000 Palestinian and Labenese prisnors still in Israeli prisons despite the Israeli pullout from Southern Lebanon nearly 5 years ago - and negotiations have repeatedly failed.
Hizbollah claim that Israel should have released its prisnors as was the deal - and they have tried negotiating but to no avail - so they take prisnor two IDF soldiers to use as a swap for their more than 10,000 prisnors in Israel.
Israel - after having reacted strongly to he capture of their soldier in Gaza was trying to send the message that this type of action does not payy-off for the captors - precisely to avoid more soldiers being captured - but exactly what they wanted to preven has happened!
Now the Israelis are in a fix - if the negotiate with Hizbollah straight away it will make their actions in Gaza look stupid - I mean - why not negotiate there in the first place as well!!
SO - they have to give a similar reply IN THE BEGINNING! - just to maintain that they will not take lightly the captpture of their soldiers.
Now - to be fair to the Israelis - they are not directly targeting civiliand - most of their attacks have been so as to destroy targets of strategic value without unnecessary loss of civilian life - but as in all wars - civilians do get caught in the cross-fire.
Prediction - both sides will be caught up in a spiral of violence - but eventually - this will be solved through negotiations and a prisnor swap when Israeli public opinion sees that that is the only way forward.
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Cheetah:
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Now - to be fair to the Israelis - they are not directly targeting civiliand - most of their attacks have been so as to destroy targets of strategic value without unnecessary loss of civilian life
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I should remind you that NOBODY targets civilians deliberately. It's always strategic assets which are the target of bombardment. However, EVERYONE understands that the result of air strikes always result in a lot more civilian deaths.
Countries justify such civilian killings by citing killings by the other side of their own civilians. Sadly, Israeli terrorist regime does not really care about it. They are the ones who have started attacking Lebanese targets, even though Hezbollah or any other Lebanese did not target any Israeli civilian in the first place. Hezbollah is a militia, and IDF is also military. So how come Israeli Yazeedis started attacking Lebanese infrastructure, and as a result Lebanese civilians?
And it is not that these Yazeedis care even an iota about Muslim lives. They have had massacred defenceless Muslims many a times in the past. And it has never stopped. Have we forgotten the Muslim family the Yazeedis killed at the Gaza beach?
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I should remind you that NOBODY targets civilians deliberately. It's always strategic assets which are the target of bombardment.
Do you seriously believe that? Why, does that help you sleep better at night when blindly supporting terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah? Because it has absolutely no basis in fact.
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So how come Israeli Yazeedis started attacking Lebanese infrastructure, and as a result Lebanese civilians?
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Because that is where they are!! If they were hiding under the skirts of the women in Hezbollahstan they would be bombing there instead. They chose to fight with Lebanon as their home base and the Lebanese (including Hezbollah in government) has allowed them.