No where in the quran does it say you can get 72 virgins if you blow your self up because suicide it self is a huge sin. There is a difference between Islam and Muslims. Islam is not Muslims and Muslims are not Islam. You can continue to defame Islam if you want.
I am not defaming islam. What i am saying is if islam is perfect then why terrorist/mullahs can do different interpretation of quran.
Peace chintu_bhopali
This splurt of words is interesting. It seems you and the terrorists share your understanding of Islam. The difference being they follow Islam (by name) and you don't. But if you are one who picks up an extreme minority and use it to support your stance then you and the terrorists themselves are closer to each other than the majority of Muslims and true Islamic teachings are to any extreme element.
You should refrain from being a mouthpiece for the terrorists. You should ask yourself what is more important:
a) Trying to defame Islam and being a cause to justify the terror b) Remaining silent about Islam (as you are not an authority on it) and actually helping in the peace process
Peace dude!!!
bhai they are not very few ..they are in very good numbers.
I am not defaming islam. What i am saying is if islam is perfect then why terrorist/mullahs can do different interpretation of quran.
My friend, it's like saying if Law is Just, then why do criminals hire high-end lawyers and get off the hook.
There are all sorts of opportunist folks among us mankind, unfortunately for the rest of us, those opportunist folks have the ability to employ every tool in their arsenal including Religion. It cannot become the religion's fault if some people manipulate it.
Another example (courtesy of a known muslim speaker), if you put a bad driver behind the wheels of the safest car, and he crashes it. Who are you going to blame? The car or the driver?
According to me, and other muslims, Islam is the perfect religion. If I decide to make a bad example of it, then it's on me. Religion will continue to be what it is. I am answerable for my actions in the hereafter, and so are the bad apples in our society who you're seeing as ambassadors of Islam. Unfortunately, they're not doing the religion any justice by making you dislike it.
My friend, it's like saying if Law is Just, then why do criminals hire high-end lawyers and get off the hook.
There are all sorts of opportunist folks among us mankind, unfortunately for the rest of us, those opportunist folks have the ability to employ every tool in their arsenal including Religion. It cannot become the religion's fault if some people manipulate it.
Another example (courtesy of a known muslim speaker), if you put a bad driver behind the wheels of the safest car, and he crashes it. Who are you going to blame? The car or the driver?
According to me, and other muslims, Islam is the perfect religion. If I decide to make a bad example of it, then it's on me. Religion will continue to be what it is. I am answerable for my actions in the hereafter, and so are the bad apples in our society who you're seeing as ambassadors of Islam. Unfortunately, they're not doing the religion any justice by making you dislike it.
Very well said.
These people who try to defame Islam based on the actions of few (who by any stretch of definition are not even muslims), these bigots knowingly try to associate islam related to crimes like killing ANY human for no reason whatsoever.
The rhetoric of 72 virgins is over-rated and over utilized by now and speaks of a one track mind or brainwashed attitude.
No. You are bona-fide muslim and promoting islam. 
Even Hindus have no clue what their scriptures say and interpret their books in many ways.
Killing non-hindus is one of their interpretations. Don’t even try to deny that dude!
I am not defaming islam. What i am saying is if islam is perfect then why terrorist/mullahs can do different interpretation of quran.
bro what has a terrorist to do with islam?A terrorist has no religion.
i am sure if a pagan wants to read about hinduism he wont read and study bal thakeray or narinder modi.
He will read your scriptures or life of ram chander jee mahraj and others of his status.
where is that mentioned?Any source?
where is that mentioned?Any source?
Did you apologize for your hateful an insulting comment in your post earlier?
"Considering your specific duty as a ksatriya, you should know that there is no better engagement for you than fighting on religious principles; and so there is no need for hesitation."
(Bhagvad-Gita chapter two verse 31)
This specific duty means killing non-hindus for these terrorists.
Essentially, these 'ksatriya' are no different than any hateful terrorists.
That is why christians, muslims and sikhs are easily targetted by these hindu terrorists in India.
Very well said.
These people who try to defame Islam based on the actions of few (who by any stretch of definition are not even muslims), these bigots knowingly try to associate islam related to crimes like killing ANY human for no reason whatsoever.
The rhetoric of 72 virgins is over-rated and over utilized by now and speaks of a one track mind or brainwashed attitude.
Um, so if not the followers then what and who makes up Islam or any religion for that matter? Why create such religion that cannot be practiced in its entirety?
My point is there is always a hint of truth in all stereotypes. Terrorism would not have been associated with Islam if it weren't for the terrorists chanting "Allah-o-Akbar" right before blowing themselves up. They are promised 72 virgins and they are fed all sorts of nonsense in training camps. Who run these camps and why do they believe they are abiding by God's law? There's something either they don't know about Islam or you must know what they don't know. Where are they looking for instructions to deal with infidels. Last but not least, why do many practicing muslims support them?
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Besides, all religions preach peace so why has there been so much religious violence? Why one just wasn't enough? Do people really need religion in order to lead peaceful moral lives? I think not.
Did you apologize for your hateful an insulting comment in your post earlier?
"Considering your specific duty as a ksatriya, you should know that there is no better engagement for you than fighting on religious principles; and so there is no need for hesitation."
(Bhagvad-Gita chapter two verse 31)
This specific duty means killing non-hindus for these terrorists.
Essentially, these 'ksatriya' are no different than any hateful terrorists.
That is why christians, muslims and sikhs are easily targetted by these hindu terrorists in India.
man u r a joke.
where it says to fight non-hindus and kill them?????
No religion is global incuding islam.
man u r a joke.
And you resorte to this comment? All it means you did not like the source you asked for!
Want some more?
I am sure you read the next verse too. Verse 32.
O Partha, happy are the ksatriyas to whom such fighting opportunities come unsought, opening for them the doors of the heavenly planets.
As supreme teacher of the world, Lord Krsna condemns the attitude of Arjuna, who said, "I do not find any good in this fighting. It will cause perpetual habitation in hell." Such statements by Arjuna were due to ignorance only. He wanted to become nonviolent in the discharge of his specific duty. For a ksatriya to be on the battlefield and to become nonviolent is the philosophy of fools. In the Parasara-smrti, or religious codes made by Parasara, the great sage and father of Vyasadeva, it is stated:
ksatriyo hi praja raksan
sastra-panih pradandayan
nirjitya para-sainyadi
ksitim dharmena palayet
"The ksatriya’s duty is to protect the citizens from all kinds of difficulties, and for that reason he has to apply violence in suitable cases for law and order. Therefore he has to conquer the soldiers of inimical kings, and thus, with religious principles, he should rule over the world."
Considering all aspects, Arjuna had no reason to refrain from fighting. If he should conquer his enemies, he would enjoy the kingdom; and if he should die in the battle, he would be elevated to the heavenly planets, whose doors were wide open to him. Fighting would be for his benefit in either case.
Humm.....sounds like more than 72 virgins will be their buddies in 'heavenly planets!" :)
Verse 33
If, however, you do not perform your religious duty of fighting, then you will certainly incur sins for neglecting your duties and thus lose your reputation as a fighter.
So now you know, what do hindu terrorists use their source for fighting and killing their enemies.
where it says to fight non-hindus and kill them?????
No religion is global incuding islam.
Where does it say?
Sounds familiar right? Thanks for making the case for majority muslims. :)
What is global to you? And what is this got to do with being global or not?
And you resorte to this comment? All it means you did not like the source you asked for!
Want some more? I am sure you read the next verse too. Verse 32.
O Partha, happy are the ksatriyas to whom such fighting opportunities come unsought, opening for them the doors of the heavenly planets.
As supreme teacher of the world, Lord Krsna condemns the attitude of Arjuna, who said, "I do not find any good in this fighting. It will cause perpetual habitation in hell." Such statements by Arjuna were due to ignorance only. He wanted to become nonviolent in the discharge of his specific duty. For a ksatriya to be on the battlefield and to become nonviolent is the philosophy of fools. In the Parasara-smrti, or religious codes made by Parasara, the great sage and father of Vyasadeva, it is stated: ksatriyo hi praja raksan sastra-panih pradandayan nirjitya para-sainyadi ksitim dharmena palayet
"The ksatriya’s duty is to protect the citizens from all kinds of difficulties, and for that reason he has to apply violence in suitable cases for law and order. Therefore he has to conquer the soldiers of inimical kings, and thus, with religious principles, he should rule over the world." Considering all aspects, Arjuna had no reason to refrain from fighting. If he should conquer his enemies, he would enjoy the kingdom; and if he should die in the battle, he would be elevated to the heavenly planets, whose doors were wide open to him. Fighting would be for his benefit in either case.
Humm.....sounds like more than 72 virgins will be their buddies in 'heavenly planets!" :)
Verse 33
If, however, you do not perform your religious duty of fighting, then you will certainly incur sins for neglecting your duties and thus lose your reputation as a fighter.
So now you know, what do hindu terrorists use their source for fighting and killing their enemies.
Where does it say?
Sounds familiar right? Thanks for making the case for majority muslims. :)
What is global to you? And what is this got to do with being global or not?
Where does it says to fight peope of other religion. when you dont know something its better to shut your mouth then sounding stupid.
Arjuna was fighting his own cousins(own caste/clan). when mahabharta was written there was no other religion.
Secondly what krishna means is to fight what is right and to protect the citizens. where it says to kill non hindus/muslims????
all world knows about is muslim terrorists and u can go and make a case for hindus but sadly noone gonna listen you.
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So tell me where in the quran does it say to kill non muslim? Give me atleast one verse. Your own hindu extremists have killed over thousands of people in Sri Lanka. Your own hindu extremists massacred over a thousand muslims in Gujrat. There are many other cases.
First!
Talk like a human and stop being rude and making statements like man you are funny or shut up!
All it shows you did not have good educated upbringing.
Secondly,
You brought few points here and again you said where does it say?
You are sounding like a parrot or copy cat of muslims… 
This is exactly the point I wanted you to come to and you cannot get away without saying that. 
Dude! This is exactly the reaction majority muslims have if people like you bring the case against majority muslims and Islam.
Are you saying there has to be ‘another religion’ for people to go commit crime in the name of religion?
These verses are more than enough for these hindu terorists to be excited and feel good to kill non-hindus.
A criminal does not see the logic and finds these verses good enough to commit crime.
Thirdly,
You mentioned about fighting for the right?
Isn’t this what every ‘fighter’ assumes before commiting a crime against humanity?
You just made the case for terrorists and criminals also, regarldless what background they come from.
Ask someone to read your own post to explain if not understood from my post.
Keep coming with your entertaining arguments.
See I am not asking you to ‘shut up’ since you are making my argument stronger.
** [FONT=verdana,arial][size=2]ISLAM: THE RELIGION OF UNIVERSAL HARMONY [/size]** [FONT=verdana,arial]Everyone talks so much today of the danger of war and the pollution of air and water that peace and ecology are the most fashionable words in people's tongues. But the same people who are expected to diagnose these problems wish to remove them through further conquest and domination of nature. The problem lies in the destruction of the equilibrium between man and nature as a result of the modern materialistic conception of and a corrupt attitude toward man and nature. Most people are reluctant to perceive that peace in human society and with nature is possible through peace with the spiritual order. To be at peace with the Earth one must be at peace with himself and this is not possible without being at peace with Heaven.
Prince Charles speech at Oxford University on Environment. What they say in Islam, humans are ashraf-ul-mahlook (sp?)
This whole Judeo-Christian concept of the place of man in the world is very much different from the Islamic concept as appears in the Qur’an and the Sunnah, *which sees the man as one of the rulers in nature. The nature has been given to man as a trust, and he has to preserve it and to live in a balanced way with it. * Every generation has to pass a clean and preserved environment to the next one.
According to Islam, the one who damages the earth is considered as though he committed a grave sin since this is a violation of the trust over nature which was given to man by God.
That is why Prince Charles, who has been well known for his Islamic tendencies, called the people all over the world to follow Islam’s green way in order to save the environment before it will be too late.
He ended his speech by citing an old saying of the nomads that “the best of all mosques is nature herself.”
Um, so if not the followers then what and who makes up Islam or any religion for that matter? Why create such religion that cannot be practiced in its entirety?
My point is there is always a hint of truth in all stereotypes. Terrorism would not have been associated with Islam if it weren't for the terrorists chanting "Allah-o-Akbar" right before blowing themselves up. They are promised 72 virgins and they are fed all sorts of nonsense in training camps. Who run these camps and why do they believe they are abiding by God's law? There's something either they don't know about Islam or you must know what they don't know. Where are they looking for instructions to deal with infidels. Last but not least, why do many practicing muslims support them?
o yeah, why make up and pass laws if they cant be practiced? yeah why indeed? you see religion is a force that compels people to form to the laws of God to lead a peaceful life. That however is not guaranteed by professing the Shahada alone. The utterance of those few words does not automatically lead to a harmonious life. You would have to act accordingly as well.
Mavericks are always there and give a low life unemployed guy something to live up to, he would do anything. Terrorism is not however unique to muslims alone and nationalist and revolutionary forces all around the world have readily engaged in one form or the other. Since Islam lays much stress on the unity and freedom of the Ummah in specific its not much of a big suprise that terrorism is adopted by some to fight the enroaching West. Fighting for your homeland and to claim whats rightfully your is indeed a duty for every muslim, but of course not how you see today. Terrorism is the easy way out for them and they fail to appreciate the real situation. The terrorist find their motivation to fight from religion, but the ways are completely different.
So tell me where in the quran does it say to kill non muslim? Give me atleast one verse. Your own hindu extremists have killed over thousands of people in Sri Lanka. Your own hindu extremists massacred over a thousand muslims in Gujrat. There are many other cases.
Those hindus extremists for fighting for land and not for religion. They didnt kill for their religion.
Those hindus extremists for fighting for land and not for religion. They didnt kill for their religion.
He gave the example of Gujrat.
What kind of land those hindu extemists/terrorists were fighting for in Gujrat?
At any rate, the land is used to promote religious ideas too.