Islam is difficult to follow

I’m just counterbalancing your outdated, deficient approach on the basics of grammatical syntax.

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Then there should be no hell.

You're confusing revenge with punishment.

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Primary driving factor is same. Punishing people who disobey you is akin to revenge.

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Thank you for your lecture on linguistics :slight_smile: since the pronoun ‘He’ is merely an inanimate one, I will now be happily using ‘Her’ instead of ‘Him’ when addressing the divine being.

Revenge is the action of hurting or harming someone in return for an injury or wrong suffered at THEIR hands.

Allah (SWT) will not seek revenge from you but punish you if you haven’t asked for forgiveness yourself.

For instance, if someone has wronged you then they haven’t gotten away with it just because you haven’t retaliated. Allah hates those who oppress others, and Allah is just, He allows time for His slaves to repent and seek forgiveness from the people that they have wronged, and if they don’t, then their punishment is with Allah. If they appear to have gotten away with something in the Dunya, it doesn’t mean they will get away with it in the akhira. If you retaliate, then you are committing the same mistake and sin, and would be no better than them.

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Astaghfirullah

NavAhmed, the doubts you're raising are exactly the same I have heard a million times from atheists since college. For the sake of proving your point, atleast bring something new to the doubts beaten to death over & over.

Cashmere is spot on. I'm no linguistic expert but she has stated nothing but common sense. If you have ever read a few books in your life, you shouldn't find her point hard to understand. One has to have their head stuck somewhere not nice to not be able to comprehend what she has simplified very nicely for you.

You say you're not an athiest. You're actually an agnostic.

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I’m not going to lie to you but I was once in your shoes too. But there are lots of good people that will show you the right way. In my case this very platform, some people changed my views. To answer your questions we actually have less restrictions then other religion, like in the sense of eating Muslims are to make the animal hilal which means to clean the animal from bad blood. Also we wodu 5 times for prayer this keeps as more clean than anyone technically, and fruits and vegetables are healthy for you, which the servings are measured by the hand. Also no one said to do ibadat 24/7, but if you count telling the truth, being good to people, helping people, being respectful, taking care of your own health as ibadat then that case yes we all have to do that, even some non-muslims do it too. And Allah made us in a way that gives us the most power think about it humans are the only species that have the power to pick, that is y you see so much opinion on one topic. If you think about it, it’s really magical because this means there is no right or wrong. Take technology lots of people i know say its wrong but i have seen mosques using technology to make the younger generation, understand Islam more better than our elders.

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In my case this very platform, some people changed my views. .
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King Mughal,

If you don’t mind my asking, how did this platform ( GS ) help change your views? I am curious about your story. But you don’t have to share it if you don’t feel comfortable.

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I feel proud of refraining from posting in this thread.

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Sometimea its best to stay out of thread to avoid heated arguments and go off in tangents to prove a point. Not every thread/post needs to replied.. Allah sab ko hadayat de.

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I don't see the problem with questioning faith. It really does make you think why some innocuous things are prohibited in religion and the only explanation for why is a bunch of word salad.

Peace @bourjois

If a person prefer worldly affairs (materialism, which will never long last) over Islam then yes, Islam is difficult to follow. Almighty Allah never close halal door for nobody, never ever in the name of test. However, haram doors are closed but those who walk into haram doors will only cause harm to themselves. I’ll quote an advice of a scholar in below video. Please watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc8phDIGukA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc8phDIGukA

May Almighty Allah accept your dua’s. Ameen.

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Peace @bourjois

If a person prefer worldly affairs (materialism, which will never long last) over Islam then yes, Islam is difficult to follow. Almighty Allah never close halal door for nobody, never ever in the name of test. However, haram doors are closed but those who walk into haram doors will only cause harm to themselves. I’ll quote an advice of a scholar in below video. Please watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc8phDIGukA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc8phDIGukA

May Almighty Allah accept your dua’s. Ameen.
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materialism??? … shadi is not materialism … it saves half od ur iman now from this we all can understand how imp marriage is …

what hurts me more is… the procedure to halal and totally jaiz thing has been made so difficult that in that process u might end up committing sins… and i am not talking about sex here… i am just saying like disobedience of parents as u remind them of their responsibilties… so many other things too…

u are wrong… if haram doors r closed then no one would be committing crime in this world n halal doors do get closed for people in the name of ur “behtari” … tests … n punishments …thats what i have started to think now …

Agree with you that we have made marriage too difficult. It is not Islam rather it is the culture. I wanted some good rishta for my niece and shared her bio-data with a friend of mine. He liked her but as soon as he discussed that with his family in Pakistan, they stopped talking to him and made it clear not to expect any help. He told that to me and I didn?t mind nor was surprised at all bec. it is happening in many families. Not to sound biased but telling what I experienced, I?m seeing this behavior is far more common in female family members. If their brother/son expresses interest in a girl, they start seeing that girl as some sort of a threat. That is just one aspect of our culture. Chichora pan (show off) is another aspect that has made marriages extremely difficult as well. And then there are obviously bad people whose numbers have increased by leaps and bounds in this age so that is another factor.

On the positive side of things everyone is not oblivious to it. Recently there was news that in China they are thinking to make it illegal to have expensive marriages. Same steps have been taken in Pakistan in the past too. I just hope more people realize it.

@bourjois I want to propose you? Accept or no?

Where are the flowers and the ring? And y u no on 1 knee ! ? :emmy:

Islam is not difficult to follow. It’s followers are difficult to follow. Brahmin kiya humarai dost hain? :d6c: Bombay biryani Pakistan mai nahin milti!

u know why they feel threatened coz such guys are their ATMs and they dont want to lose that… obviously when wife will come they will get less money sent back home as compared to before … n this emotional card some mothers play i dnt understand …what with this emotional drama ??? … i liked this guy he liked me too … he is syed so they only marry within caste .. thats another tamasha … i dnt get that ..thats the norm in pak i think… khair … he asked her if there is any chance of marrying out of caste & a girl of his choice … she started crying & got sick too after that … his mother is a widow … understandable she went through a lot but still whats with this emotional drama … its not like he asked to rob a bank or something then why rona dhona … he felt so guilty afterwards … he was like if i do any such thing my mother just cant take it as his bro married someone out of caste of his choice too which made her really upset back then so she said to him not to do any such thing … she is old plus widow plus health issues so he was like i cant do that to her given her health,age n all… this like abusing ur motherly status …

i dnt understand why mothers do such things that too with intense dialogues …mein tumhe doodh maaf nahi karoogi… mere janaze se uth ke jaoge … tum mere liye mar gaye ho … meri chadar tumhare qadmo me he … tumhe jaidad se hisa nahi dege … i mean all this drama n for what ??? just coz that poor thing asked to marry someone of his choice ??? … khud shadiya kar lete he… apni life guzaar lete he … khud das baara bache paida kar lete he … baad mein unki jaan ko azaab daala hota he puppet ki tara treat karte he farmabardari ke naam pe …PAGAL LOG !!! … whhy dont they let their sons finction like a man for once ? …