Islam and the West

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i am a nonmuslim......

or are you trying to say that there is no such thing as a 'moderate" muslim, either you're completely following the tenets of islam word for word, in the strictest way possible or a person isn't muslim. just getting what you said clarified.

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Please do a little research on Imam Siraj Wahaj, you won’t find anything extreme in his lectures. Here’s his interview video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O8__kaEYAI

We’re living in times of confusion and deception and even muslims themselves are confused about their faith so God help us all.

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Nisha search on GS for the term Moderate Muslim. It has already been proven there is no such thing. Islam does not change. What changes is the political, economic and social ideology of individuals and not the religion itself.

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since islam like christianity is an expansionist religion and the population of muslims grows not just in the united states but the rest of the western world, seeing that most muslims support hezbollah, what's going to happen? there will be a clash between the two. nobody else sees the foreseeable conflict between the two sides.

at that time, i'll be happy if people saw me as hispanic. if that makes sense to anybody....if it doesn't never mind.

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there are muslims that see it in two ways, which way of thinking is right?
you either follow every tenet of islam word for word or don’t consider yourself a muslim, like for example those muslims don’t consider a man like azim premji a muslim or abdul kalam azad as muslim

and then there are other muslims that say Allah is the final judge on who is or isn’t muslim

the fact is that since there is vast ignorance about islam/muslims even among muslims themselves about their own religion as well as among nonmuslims, and the fact that hezbollah is seen as a ‘terrorist’ organization by many in the west obviously those that support hezbollah will be seen in a certain light…right?

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Then why do you care?

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why you are so convinced that supporting hezbollah makes someone crazy??

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please check what i wrote to hareem though.

i have muslim friends in the nonvirtual world that i care about and i think this is something that all minorities need to think about.

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Even if we don't support Hezbollah we will still be seen as people associated with terrorists until we become either totally like the people of the West inwardly and outwardly and forsake our religion or examples of the best humans living today to counteract the propaganda against us.

I personally don't even know who Hezbollah are or what they represent.

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Nisha, did a little research and found this on youtube.

This man George Galloway is not even muslim but he has a totally different opinion. I’m happy that there are people who still have the ability of seeing things in different light. So I guess there is still hope.

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George Galloway is a legend but he is not really unbiased, his ex wife is Palestinian.

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Just because his ex-wife is Palestinian that makes him biased? And besides, bias is only wrong when you support someone's wrongs as well as their rights, he is only supporting their struggle against oppression and I'm sure if they do anything wrong he will speak against them as well.

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Don't get me wrong, I respect the guy he tore the senate to peices over the whole Iraq bribe fiasco. Don't be naive though, the man has his own agenda.

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Muslims can only, for lack of a better term, "correct" a non muslim's perception of Islam when the opportunity presents itself, for in this day and age, making an attempt to do that by organizing public events [for example] will further label us as promoting fundamentalist views.

Another way muslims can spread a better image is by not being "reactive" to every situation and treat events with patience and tolerance keeping the primary message of Islam in mind.

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I agree, a righteous agenda most probably. :/

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Yea 'righteous' came to my mind when I watched him dressed as a cat, meowing, drinking invisible milk on his knees from some womens hand in the celebrity Big Brother house, while he was supposed to be doing his job as a Respect Party MP for the constituency of Tower Hamletts.

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Not this what is a moderate Muslim debate issue again. Is a moderate Muslim someone prays 2-3 times per day and not the 5 he is supposed to? Is it someone who mderately believes in the basis of Islam? Is it some one who fasts 15 of the 30 days?

Or does it depend upon what your political inclinations are as someoen would argue. Is a Muslim moderate when they are silent on the Iraq war and on Israeli occupation? Is a Muslim extreme because he supports Hamas who happen to be fighting for freedom from an occupying force?

The media is not interested in showing things which are not sensational. It is a problem which occurs all over the world.

*Why does nt Nisha write to newspapers and communicate with other media organisations askign them to show Muslims more positively? *

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i'm not saying that the balanced muslims should've said anything to the protesters, i'm saying that the "moderate" muslims should have a greater presence in the world media and show their faces a lot more b/c the media keeps highlighting the extremists as a representation of the religion.

not online in blogs, that does nothing absolutely nothing but for example coming on shows like the rush limbaugh show(i see his views as extreme,ignorant, right conservative) or even on fox news

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i do my part in correcting nonmuslims as well as muslims when they misinterpret certain verses of the quran that i have knowledge on. if they say something ignorant and insulting about the religion or muslims i'll be on the defensive and try to correct their warped view but that's as far as i'll go.

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it's not my responsibility, i ain't the muslim here, i am not a religious person, i would be the last one to promote any religion, i have respect for all religions and love most things about all of them but it's the responsibility of sane,balanced,compassionate muslims to show islam and muslims in a better light, fight the right conservative, horrible image that the haters are painting of them in a nonviolent way. and also correct those muslims that have a warped understanding of their own religion or seem to be misinterpreting certain verses, or using verses to promote hate against nonmuslims <-------very important**

supporting hezbollah is controversial at the moment b/c of how the west sees the organization

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never watched it but heard about it....well we can't force our own standards of righteousness on others, specially on a non muslim guy.