Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
you accused Imran of being TTP supporter yet CTBT are the same . what is your point? who brought imran in an ISIS thread?
maybe you need to get your own head checked after eating those lead topped keema parathas at pml-n lahore jalsas.
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
The Iraqi army is failing every time they try to fight IS. Worse, each time the Iraqi army is defeated, IS capture their weapons and become stronger.
And the world outside Iraq (apart from Iran) has no desire to get stuck in another Iraqi war.
They can thank Prime Minister Al-Maliki for that. Since coming to power, he began to deprofessionalise the military, which was trained and equipped by the Americans and was beginning to make some progress. He removed many well-trained Sunni commanders in the armed forces and replaced them with, mostly Shia, political loyalists. He was more concerned with having a loyal military in the event of a coup than having an effective military.
This replacement of the military's well trained and experienced commanders with inexperienced sycophants is what has led to the incompetence in the Iraqi military that we're seeing now.
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They can thank Prime Minister Al-Maliki for that. Since coming to power, he began to deprofessionalise the military, which was trained and equipped by the Americans and was beginning to make some progress. He removed many well-trained (Sunni) commanders in the armed forces and replaced them with, mostly Shia, political loyalists. He was more concerned with having a loyal military in the event of a coup than having an effective military.
This replacement of the military's well trained and experienced commanders with inexperienced sycophants is what has led to the incompetence in the Iraqi military that we're seeing now.
You have nailed Iraq's dilemma.
Re: Isis’s slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
After taking control of Iraq’s Sunni heartland, ISIS is now extending its territory into Kurdish areas.
Islamic State takes control of Iraq’s largest Christian town - World - DAWN.COM
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
This is extremely sad. And what on earth is the pathetic Iraqi Army doing? Maybe Iran/Turkey should intervene.
US/Nato have ruined this country beyond repair. I bet some Iraqis wish the return of Saddam.
The only way you can resolve this issue is through taking a offensive position against these extremists.
If ISIS really want to fight they should bloody go to Palestine!
(And I hear of many British Muslims going to Iraq to support ISIS. They should be thrown in jail and have their citizenship revoked and shipped to the Islamic Republic of ISIS.)
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
Has anyone figured out who is funding them? I find it funny that the American media is avoiding this topic of where the guns are coming from. And interestingly, following a massacre in the Mid-East that makes a certain group of people look really bad, this follows. It's almost like there are people at work that WANT to make muslims look bad, almost to justify what happened in Gaza.
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
What a pathetic state we are in as Muslims, we condemned Israel's attack on Gaza on every single front and wanted world forces to end the genocide but we can't do the same for (so-called) Muslims killing Muslims. We wanted Muslim/Arab/non-Muslim/non-Arab leaders to stop Israel but who should we call to stop this genocide? The root cause of this genocide is all very same people :( ... west dethroned an existing government and Muslim sects jumped in to grab the share of pie :(.
In fact, IS is doing EXACTLY what zionists did - they're land grabbing, and driving people out/killing them/starving them. How is ISIS any better?
It's sad that no muslim speaks out about this crap.
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The problem is I think that various countries, for whatever nefarious purposes, have been funding proxy armies. How do you get someone else to fight your war for you, while you hide behind a curtain? You whip up a religious frenzy. Tell them their Prophet did the same thing and they should also be brutal and take over land and cause so much chaos, destroying infrastructure. So these countries can then take over those resources.
Problem that no one understands is that negative religious fervor has it's own positive feedback loop - it will continue to grow and grow and it will grow to a point where you can no longer control it.
Don't people see this simple fact? Don't turn any religion into a Frankenstein.
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
Sometimes I feel that the dictators in Middle Eastern countries knew how to control their population. The West in its quest to impose their ideology in the region has created turmoil in Qaddafi's Libya, Mobarak's Egypt, Saddam's Iraq and Asad's Syria.
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
Sometimes I feel that the dictators in Middle Eastern countries knew how to control their population. The West in its quest to impose their ideology in the region has created turmoil in Qaddafi's Libya, Mobarak's Egypt, Saddam's Iraq and Asad's Syria.
You know, I've also thought about this. While I don't support dictators, I'm not sure if American style democracy is the best form of government for every country and population.
A couple of days ago when talking with my husband about the current squabbling in Afghanistan over the results of the presidential election, he said something which I found rather unsavoury. He stated that he believes that the reason American style "democracy" has failed and will continue to fail in places like Iraq and Afghanistan is that American style governments only function in countries with fairly homogenous and united populations. The aforementioned places have extremely diverse populations where the divisions run quite deeply. In addition to that, a government installed by an occupying force will never have legitimacy. It will always be viewed as a puppet government by the local populace and continue to be a source of conflict. As unpalatable as it is, I'm beginning to think that he may be right.
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
Sometimes I feel that the dictators in Middle Eastern countries knew how to control their population. The West in its quest to impose their ideology in the region has created turmoil in Qaddafi's Libya, Mobarak's Egypt, Saddam's Iraq and Asad's Syria.
I have to agree with you. Maybe western concept of democracy is not for everyone especially where tribal loyalties are more important than any concept of nation/state. We have seen this in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, etc.
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Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
Dude, who are you hanging out with? I have not seen a single person defend terrorists like ISIS or Boko Haram. Majority of Muslims are against these people and they criticize Muslim leaders first for their failure to respond.
I am not saying any sect/race or even 'minority' supports them, but the fact is that have taken huge areas under control, committing genocide left and right but no Muslim govts seem to be interested to stop (don't even talk about eliminate) them. No massive media/social network campaign against them (as done for Gaza).
you accused Imran of being TTP supporter yet CTBT are the same . what is your point? who brought imran in an ISIS thread?
maybe you need to get your own head checked after eating those lead topped keema parathas at pml-n lahore jalsas.
bhai sahib, these days PMLN is in panic so it reflects everywhere ;)
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
Sometimes I feel that the dictators in Middle Eastern countries knew how to control their population. The West in its quest to impose their ideology in the region has created turmoil in Qaddafi's Libya, Mobarak's Egypt, Saddam's Iraq and Asad's Syria.
cannot agree with you any more..
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
Has anyone figured out who is funding them? I find it funny that the American media is avoiding this topic of where the guns are coming from. And interestingly, following a massacre in the Mid-East that makes a certain group of people look really bad, this follows. It's almost like there are people at work that WANT to make muslims look bad, almost to justify what happened in Gaza.
ISIS control oil and gas fields in Syria and Iraq producing output which can be sold for over $3 million per day on the black market. This means that even before you factor in tax collection from the areas under control, their annual income is over $1 billion per year. Add into that fund raising efforts amongst sympathetic Sunni populations in the Gulf, and you have a huge amount in income without needing any foreign government support.
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I have heard so much about Peshmerga these days, who are supposedly highly trained force but it looks like even they are no match against ISIS.
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
The 'ISIS' term has been hijacked. Originally, there were less than a thousand real ISIS terrorists who attacked Iraq. They have been joined by Iraqi Sunni tribesmen and many of them are ex soldiers of Saddams army and these are highly trained soldiers and military leadership (ex generals, colonels etc).
Once, the Iraqi Sunnis get what they want from the Shia govt., they will kick out the real ISIS very quickly like they did to Al-Queda a few years ago.
Re: Isis's slaughter of the Yazidi is a new Rwanda happening before our eyes
amreeka did air strikes on ISIS, finally.
Also obama gave green light for air strikes in order to break siege of mount sinjar.
Good news!!! what took them so long?
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amreeka did air strikes on ISIS, finally. Also obama gave green light for air strikes in order to break siege of mount sinjar. Good news!!! what took them so long?
The USA took so long and is being cautious to avoid looking like it is siding with Shias in a Shia vs Sunni war. It was previously refusing to do air strikes unless Iraq put more Sunnis in positions on power in government.
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Obama gave greenlight when Christians came under attack.