Most Jews are of the Semetic race. The Semetic race also includes most arabs. However, European Jews have a lot of "white" mixed into them.
It is true that original Jews were Semite. But majority of present day Jews are Ashkenazi, who are Khazar converts.
Re: Is Judaism a race or religion?
Jew became associated with race because of Jews living in Europe had semetic features which made them stand out from Europeans
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If Judaism is not a race then why do Israeli Zionists talk about "Arabs vs. Jews" instead of talking about "Arabs vs. Israelis"?
If being Jewish is religion than how can it be compared with being Arab (which is a race/nation)?! If Judaism is religion than its comparison can only be made with Islam (which is another religion).
^ If Judaism is not a race then why do Israeli Zionists talk about "Arabs vs. Jews" instead of talking about "Arabs vs. Israelis"?
Because the conflict has taken the form of all Jews living in Israel vs all Muslim Arabs. For example, when Hezbollah fired Katusha rockets into Israel during the 2006 War and killed Arabs, it apologized for that. But when it killed Jews it didn't even though those Jews could have been living in Israel before the European migration into Palestine.
And thus the conflict is that Arab Nationalism infused with Religious and Racist hatred for Jews vs Israel.
And since Arabs are the only ones fighting Israel it becomes a Jewish vs Arab conflict.
Kind of like if all muslims in England were being beaten up by whites, it would become a Anglo-Saxon vs Muslim conflict.
If being Jewish is religion than how can it be compared with being Arab (which is a race/nation)?! If Judaism is religion than its comparison can only be made with Islam (which is another religion).
Judiasm is seen by many Arabs as a religion of traitors, pigs and monkeys. Arabs consider Jews to be sub-human and supported Hitler during the Holocaust in World War II. They use out of context portions of the Quran to justify this non-sense.
But because it is mostly Arabs who share this non-nonsensical view of Jews it is thus shown as an Arab vs Jew conflict and not an Jew vs Islam conflict.
Re: Is Judaism a race or religion?
The political leanings of the conflict are to fuel the image of a small country trying to survive against the entire Arab world. Sadly that is not the case. The Arabs in Chad, Darfur, CAR don't really care what Lebanon or Syria do. The idea is to protray Israel as the weak victim when infact it is the aggressor and very easily a nation of war criminals. Who oddly enough become prime minister!
Talk about stereotyping! Jews are as good and as bad as other people in the countries they live in. Being advanced has nothing to do with race or religion.
What a foolish argument. How about Japan? China?
Take a statement out of context and this is what you get. My reply was in context to the statement that Jews are the most cowardly people and are cursed by God. If that was the case, how do you find Jews in good positions in all the good companies. It helps to read the post entirely and understand rather than taking potshots at individual statements. Hope this helps.
Re: Is Judaism a race or religion?
Fox TV - X Files - Lone Gunman - 4 Mar 2001
Re: Is Judaism a race or religion?
merc:
By “Arabs” you mean Muslims, because an Arab can be a Christian. You are simply to plainly call such people Muslims because you are on a propaganda mission on a non-Arab but Muslim forum.
Here is the truth from Jews themselves:
a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship.
JUDAISM IS RACISM.
Let me re-phrase, Muslim Arabs see Judiasm as a religion of Pigs and Monkeys
And since many other uneducated muslims worship the very ground that Arabs walk on, they believe this garbage too…
And to your point, if a muslim pakistani born in Pakistan goes clubbing, does not practice Islam but he is still considered a muslim since he did not re-nounce his religion
and since Israel has the right of return to all Jews
Don’t know what kind of point you are trying to make here
try harder next time
merc:
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Let me re-phrase, Muslim Arabs see Judiasm as a religion of Pigs and Monkeys
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It is very racist to generalize and stereotype.
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Don't know what kind of point you are trying to make here
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Point is that: "Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions"
This is why Israelis do not compare Jews (nationality) with Muslims (religion), rather they compare Jews (nationality) with Arabs (nationality). The second comparison only makes sense if one considers Judaism to be a nation instead of religion.
And since Jewish race considers itself supermen, hence Judaism is racism.
merc:
And since Jewish race considers itself supermen, hence Judaism is racism.
It is very racist to generalize and stereotype.
Muslims consider themselves the best of mankind, superior to others. They accept all Muslms as brothers and the rest of humanity as lesser and doomed to hell. Maybe you shouldn't throw stones.
It is obvious that you are on a propaganda mission to label all Jews as racists.
Re: Is Judaism a race or religion?
All Jews are not racist. Some of them are very decent people.
All Jews are not racist. Some of them are very decent people.
yes like Ben Stiller.
Re: Is Judaism a race or religion?
I don't like Ben Stiller :\
It is very racist to generalize and stereotype.
Are you saying that Judaism is religion alone? Are you saying that ALL Jews don't consider themselves God's chosen people?
It is very racist to generalize and stereotype.
Muslims consider themselves the best of mankind, superior to others. They accept all Muslms as brothers and the rest of humanity as lesser and doomed to hell. Maybe you shouldn't throw stones.
It is obvious that you are on a propaganda mission to label all Jews as racists.
We should avoid confusing philosophy of religious fraternity, which is available and preached among every religion, and belief of righteousness on the basis of religion to the sense of superiority on the basis of a specific race. It is like comparing apples with oranges.
Most of the Jewish people have a sense of superiority owing to their purity of blood line, number of Prophets and a status of chosen one, though the status was conditioned and they lost it, but to them they still are the chosen one as a race.
Zionism is a political manifestation of the bestial side of this general sense of superiority.
......And since Jewish race considers itself supermen, hence Judaism is racism.
That's quite a leap of mental qalabazi prince sahib.
Would you like to look at Muslim gariban first? Not sure how much you know about one of the major sects of Islam ie. Shias.
Why is it that Pakistani and Indian Shias have Sayyad Shias (superior) and ordinary shias (inferior).
In fact the whole Shia religion emphasizes on the Quraish being the supermen just because Mohammad pbuh was a Quresh. Since they couldn't find a male heir of Mohammad pbuh, all their efforts have been focused on making Mohammad's pbuh nephew as the superman. Then every decedent of Ali is considered to be Ayatullah or something close to it.
Even our darood's interpretation is different between Sunnis and Shias. For one Al-e-Mohammad means every believer, while the other goes with literal meaning "Al-e-Mohammad" only means Mohammad pbuh blood, tribe, or race.
FYI. Ordinary Jews on the other hand may not put that much emphasis on direct decedents of Moses ah.
It is time to burry the hateful hatchets and concentrate among commonalities. Instead of shouting curse words at first three Khalifas, Shias should consider them respectable too even though they do not belong to Mohmmad pbuh race, tribe, blood, etc etc.
And if we the Muslims cannot give respect due to "racial" differences, who are we to accuse others?
p.s. And what's up with Sunnis (Saudi Whabis to be precise) blowing up Imam bargahs? Once just got destroyed in Peshawar. Is that a Jewish conspiracy too?
I don't like Ben Stiller :\
But still he's pretty decent ... ???
We should avoid confusing philosophy of religious fraternity, which is available and preached among every religion, and belief of righteousness on the basis of religion to the sense of superiority on the basis of a specific race. It is like comparing apples with oranges.
Most of the Jewish people have a sense of superiority owing to their purity of blood line, number of Prophets and a status of chosen one, though the status was conditioned and they lost it, but to them they still are the chosen one as a race.
Zionism is a political manifestation of the bestial side of this general sense of superiority.
Semantics. Self righteous (and self imagined) superiority is wrong no matter what it's based on - race, religion, blood line, or anything else - it's all bestial.
Anyway, you contradict yourself by implying they had chosen staus and lost it. No one's had chosen status to lose.