Re: Is it blasphemous?
On the first look it appears to be blasphemous.. one shud avoid sharing such stuff coz not too many ppl get the 'very very deep' meaning of such shairs.
then why poets write such stuff if they don't want to be labelled as blasphemous by masses. Such ashaars should then not be part of Diwans.
Re: Is it blasphemous?
to gori karat Singhaar ki sinf kia hai? aur raqs e Zanjeer and Tan to pe waroon are not Ghazals.. We consider Ameer Khusro one of earliest poets of Urdu / Hindustani language, and he wrote geet more than ghazals. So geet can't be declared non-poetry
tu un ko shairi kon nahi maan raha?? but may un ko baki poetry say alag samjhta hoon...or may nahi baqi sab bhi alag samjhtay hain....kabhi tariq azeez k program may suna hai baait baazi may koi filmi shair???if yes then i take my words back
Re: Is it blasphemous?
then why poets write such stuff if they don't want to be labelled as blasphemous by masses. Such ashaars should then not be part of Diwans.
qasoor samjhnay waloon ka hai shairon ka nahi..... Diva
Hum butoon say jo piyar kartay hain
naql-e-parwardigaar kartay hain...
can u explain :)
Re: Is it blasphemous?
tu un ko shairi kon nahi maan raha?? but may un ko baki poetry say alag samjhta hoon...or may nahi baqi sab bhi alag samjhtay hain....kabhi tariq azeez k program may suna hai baait baazi may koi filmi shair???if yes then i take my words back
we are talking of blasphemous poetry as a whole, which include any part of Ghazal, Nazm, Geet, Song, etc. I didn't bifurcated it. If some one raise question about blasphemous thought behind a shair from Ghazal, then why not a geet, song which is not categorised as prose.
Re: Is it blasphemous?
qasoor samjhnay waloon ka hai shairon ka nahi..... Diva
Hum butoon say jo piyar kartay hain naql-e-parwardigaar kartay hain...
can u explain :)
I already explained it and most of the poetry readers will consider it in same way unless a far fetched interpretation is introduced :)
Re: Is it blasphemous?
we are talking of blasphemous poetry as a whole, which include any part of Ghazal, Nazm, Geet, Song, etc. I didn't bifurcated it. If some one raise question about blasphemous thought behind a shair from Ghazal, then why not a geet, song which is not categorised as prose.
coz geet bananay k liyay filmi zaroorton or music say hum ahang karnay or ajebo ghareeb qafiyay radeef bhi istamal karnay partay hain....
Re: Is it blasphemous?
I already explained it and most of the poetry readers will consider it in same way unless a far fetched interpretation is introduced :)
aap DIVA ban gayee hoo :p
Re: Is it blasphemous?
coz geet bananay k liyay filmi zaroorton or music say hum ahang karnay or ajebo ghareeb qafiyay radeef bhi istamal karnay partay hain....
so what.. iss tarah ki tuk bandi to sahib e deevan shu'ara ne bhi ki. Take example of Farhat Abbas Shah, jinho ne thok ke bhao kitaben likhi hain
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aap DIVA ban gayee hoo :p
you quoted me instead of Diva :p
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you quoted me instead of Diva :p
quote karna tu aik separate cheez hai...by name i asked this to DIVA
Re: Is it blasphemous?
then why poets write such stuff if they don't want to be labelled as blasphemous by masses. Such ashaars should then not be part of Diwans.
Shhayers are no angels :)
Their critique are people of deep understanding of poetry and stuff so basically it is useless to say no action by far has bin taken again them coz my sole target here are the people who see it superficially.
Re: Is it blasphemous?
Shhayers are no angels :) Their critique are people of deep understanding of poetry and stuff so basically it is useless to say no action by far has bin taken again them coz my sole target here are the people who see it superficially.
urdu may samjhaooo...english meray sir k oper say guzar gaye hai
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quote karna tu aik separate cheez hai...by name i asked this to DIVA
ok sarkar.. ek ghalti aap ne ki.. ek humne.. hisaab barabar
Re: Is it blasphemous?
Shhayers are no angels :) Their critique are people of deep understanding of poetry and stuff so basically it is useless to say no action by far has bin taken again them coz my sole target here are the people who see it superficially.
The question arises poet writes for whom? for readers or for himself? If he writes for himself, then keep controversial lines requiring pages of explanations with himself and give to the reader what is not ambiguous. nahi?
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may nay ghalti say tu nahi ki 
aik post may 2 logon ko daal diya…yeh ghalti nahi hai aik teer say doo shikar hain lolz… 
Re: Is it blasphemous?
The question arises poet writes for whom? for readers or for himself? If he writes for himself, then keep controversial lines requiring pages of explanations with himself and give to the reader what is not ambiguous. nahi?
nahi...shaier ka kuch zaati nahi hota....sab afaqi hota hai....haan us ko samjhna logon k apnay baas may hota hai us k liyay doo chezain lazmi pata hoon basics ki haad tak
aik ista'aray
2nd cultural values
and third one is tasbeehaat....
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nahi...shaier ka kuch zaati nahi hota....sab afaqi hota hai....haan us ko samjhna logon k apnay baas may hota hai us k liyay doo chezain lazmi pata hoon basics ki haad tak
aik ista'aray 2nd cultural values and third one is tasbeehaat....
ista'aare aur tashbeehaat ki aaR lekar cultural values ko rondna shayari to nahin...
Khuda ko kam-hosla kehna konsi value hai?
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ista'aare aur tashbeehaat ki aaR lekar cultural values ko rondna shayari to nahin...
Khuda ko kam-hosla kehna konsi value hai?
yehi tu istaaaraa hai jisay samjhna he asal kaam hai....nahi tu phir shair or aam insan may kiya faraq?
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urdu may samjhaooo...english meray sir k oper say guzar gaye hai
Ooper se kesay guzri ..pakra nahin tum nay..patangain tou khoob loot'tey ho
Re: Is it blasphemous?
Ooper se kesay guzri ..pakra nahin tum nay..patangain tou khoob loot'tey ho
tumara dil tu loat na saka...socha patangay he loat loon....