Iraq Body Count - Civilians Massacred in Baghdad (Merged)

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No, you knew exactly the beast he was, you just chose to ignore it becuase of your vendetta against Iran.
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Malik73,
Personally, I didn't know the beast he was. And yes at that time U.S. had a vendetta on Iran. Iran was kidnapping and killing my people and making a pretty good effort to blow up the WTC.

How would you behave if you lived in my shoes?

And I bet that the photos you just observed were Saddams work.

Yet another atrocity against Iraqi civilians…

Marines Fire on Truck, Kill 7 Civilians](Latest news from around the world | The Guardian)

And then they say they are taking extra measures to protect civilians. :rolleyes:

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The shooting killed seven civilians, including three children...
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ya Khuda. Only God knows how their families must be trying to cope.

May God have mercy on us all.

The civilian Iraqis were in vehicles behind a military truck that refused to stop and tried to crash through the Marine roadblock, ABC reported

What causes these civilians to do these things?

How can US determine which trucks they allow to crash through roadblocks? They found out the hard way that even a pregnant woman on board can't guarantee their safety.

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What causes these civilians to do these things?
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Iraq has been illegally invaded and occupied by Anglo-American terrorists, and it's people are none to happy about that fact. Maybe that is the simple cause.

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Iraq has been illegally invaded and occupied by Anglo-American terrorists, and it's people are none to happy about that fact. Maybe that is the simple cause.
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So they are so unhappy that they commit suicide?

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So they are so unhappy that they commit suicide?
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When war is waged against a people and nation many non-convential tactics are employed by people to resist occupiers. War is an ugly business, and it is even uglier for the people on the receiving end i.e. the Iraqi people in this case.

But if you find "suicide bombings" unacceptable then you should also find soldiers murdering women, children and babies in cold blood unacceptable? There is nothing to defend or excuse in those cases.

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When war is waged against a people and nation many non-convential tactics are employed by people to resist occupiers. War is an ugly business, and it is even uglier for the people on the receiving end i.e. the Iraqi people in this case.

But if you find "suicide bombings" unacceptable then you should also find soldiers murdering women, children and babies in cold blood unacceptable? There is nothing to defend or excuse in those cases.
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Your first paragraph indicates these women and children committed suicide as a non-conventional tactic. Your second paragraph accuses the US of murdering them. You did a good job yourself of defending these cases. Thanks.

According to Iraq Body Count, a minimum number of 601 Iraqi civilians have been killed thus far.

I think as usual you have mixed up over your facts (after all in another thread you called Ireland an Anglo-Saxon country :rolleyes: ).

When I was referring to the American’s having murdered these people i.e. the women, children and babies it was the first incident of American savagery I was referring to. Remember the incident when the US military said it was “absolutely the correct thing”? The second incident only happened a few hours ago, and it was in relation to that I was answering your question about “suicide bombings”. Now once you decipher that you can try not to dodge my last question, namely:-

If you find “suicide bombings” unacceptable then you should also find soldiers murdering women, children and babies in cold blood unacceptable? There is nothing to defend or excuse in those cases.

Reuters Video - Iraqi Civilian Casualties 05 Apr 03

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“The use of cluster bombs in an attack on a civilian area of al-Hilla constitutes an indiscriminate attack and a grave violation of international humanitarian law,”

Iraq: Cluster bombs Used Civilians pay the price](Iraq: Cluster bombs Used Civilians pay the price | Scoop News) Scoop News
Thursday, 3 April 2003, 8:41 am

News Release Issued by the International Secretariat of Amnesty International

Amnesty International is deeply concerned about the high toll of civilian casualties and the use of cluster bombs in US military attacks in heavily populated areas. On 1 April, at least 33 civilians including many children were reportedly killed and around 300 injured in US attacks on the town of al-Hilla. Amnesty International is particularly disturbed by reports that cluster bombs were used in the attacks and may have been responsible for some of the civilian deaths.

“The use of cluster bombs in an attack on a civilian area of al-Hilla constitutes an indiscriminate attack and a grave violation of international humanitarian law,” Amnesty International emphasized today. “If the US is serious about protecting civilians, it must publicly commit to a moratorium on the use of cluster weapons. Using cluster munitions will lead to indiscriminate killing and injuring of civilians,” the organization added.

According to reports, the type of cluster bomblets used in al-Hilla was BLU97 A/B. Each cannister contains 202 small bomblets – BLU97 – the size of a soft drink can. These cluster bomblets scatter over a large area approximately the size of two football fields. At least 5% of these ‘dud’ bomblets do not explode upon impact, turning them into de facto anti-personnel mines because they continue to pose a threat to people, including civilians, who come into contact with them.

For further information on Amnesty International’s concerns and recommendations about the crisis in Iraq please visit: http://click.topica.com/maaaX9faaW5yJbb0hPub/ When a crisis puts people at risk of very serious human rights violations, Amnesty International has to act. Please donate to Iraq Crisis Response, visit: http://click.topica.com/maaaX9faaW5yKbb0hPub/

Agree Clusterbombs are horrible and should not have been used.

Believe (and saw the Hilla bombing on the news media) that the bombs were used to take out a large number of Iraqi Tanks. I don’t believe that the bombs were intentionally dropped on a town full of civilians for the express purpose of killing the civilian population. Actually I think the report I heard called them precision cluster bombs…

>>Actually I think the report I heard called them precision cluster bombs…<<
The inclusion of the word ‘precision’ does not necessarily make them precise.

In the recent tragedy of the family that was killed at the checkpoint, a child’s face was shot at by American troops.
A 15 year old boy has become an orphan instantly, losing his father, mother, two sisters, a brother, and an uncle.

One boy’s war… bathed in blood of his family, James Meek
The Observer, 6 April 2003

AAG aap mujhay bohut masoom aur bholi bhali khatoon lagti hain

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Believe (and saw the Hilla bombing on the news media) that the bombs were used to take out a large number of Iraqi Tanks. I don't believe that the bombs were intentionally dropped on a town full of civilians for the express purpose of killing the civilian population. Actually I think the report I heard called them precision cluster bombs....
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You are aware of Robert Fisk right. He was in the town of Hillah and even visted some of the civilian casualties in the hospital. Read what he had to say. Ill find his article for you.

The title sums it up. This is truly awful.
Bear in mind that, thanks to the trade embargo, even coffins are too expensive for many Iraqis of the decimated middle-class to afford.

Red Cross horrified by number of dead civilians, CTV [Canada], 3 April 2003

“We saw that a truck was delivering dozens of totally dismembered dead bodies of women and children. It was an awful sight. It was really very difficult to believe this was happening.”

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You are aware of Robert Fisk right. He was in the town of Hillah and even visted some of the civilian casualties in the hospital. Read what he had to say. Ill find his article for you.
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What did Robert Fisk have to say?

Very Disturbing Nadia_H.