Gdet this riddiculous notion out of your head. You cant persecute people becuase thier beliefs conflict with yours. Saudi Arabia is not protecting anyone, its rampant aggression towards other people.
Same happened in Yemen. Like I said before Iran in the last 1000 years has not moved out on anybody. Saudi Arabia conquered other people and grew 5 times in size within a century.
Who is the aggressive one here? Who posses the risk to others.
Shia have rights too I am a Sunny but becuase I dont agree with thier views does not mean I can go round wiping them out becuase I see them as a threat?
Bahrain has hardly any Iranians there… the uprising is entirely Bahraini and actually its not just Shia but Sunni and Christian too… the people dont want a king in charge simple. They want democracy Saudi Arabia is getting in the way of that.
Its a seriously well known fact…Free Syrian Army ‘captures Iranian soldiers’ | News | Al Jazeera. Like i said i have family, i know whats happening accept it if you want or not. My iraqi friend says the same in iraq there are many iranian milias also stirring trouble like stealing peoples houses and even murdering them..
You have fammily on the ground. I pray they stay safe. I too have friends there, not fammily I know but friends who work for non political aid agencies and not corrpted by propaganda the truth is that nobody knows whats going on down there.
Just like in battle you dont know where every bullet comes from, thats why they have post action reports and inquiries.
We can agree to disagree but one country supporting another with arms is different to actually putting troops on the ground.
Also the artical is from the Guardian which usually tries to have an independant stance however as of late it was noted for propaganda in Libya and so we cant rule out the same for Syria.
Likewise we cant trust Assads statements either since his father did commit attrocities so it might be like father like son.
However looking at the bigger picture in the entire region Iran and Syria to an extent are victims of largely foriegn aggression and foriegn interference.
Put it simply if these nations were not the only two in the region that seriously posed a threat to Isreal would they be so targeted? Offcourse not so we have to treat everything with a pinch of salt.
We are in no position to condemn anyone except those whos guilt is beyond any reasonable doubt. Ussually culprit here is America and the Arab states... they always cause the trouble so even if Syria is at fault they are the reasons why Syrians are virtually fighting this civil war. The instability is a factor almost entirely due to foreign interference.
You have fammily on the ground. I pray they stay safe. I too have friends there, not fammily I know but friends who work for non political aid agencies and not corrpted by propaganda the truth is that nobody knows whats going on down there.
Just like in battle you dont know where every bullet comes from, thats why they have post action reports and inquiries.
We can agree to disagree but one country supporting another with arms is different to actually putting troops on the ground.
Also the artical is from the Guardian which usually tries to have an independant stance however as of late it was noted for propaganda in Libya and so we cant rule out the same for Syria.
Likewise we cant trust Assads statements either since his father did commit attrocities so it might be like father like son.
However looking at the bigger picture in the entire region Iran and Syria to an extent are victims of largely foriegn aggression and foriegn interference.
Put it simply if these nations were not the only two in the region that seriously posed a threat to Isreal would they be so targeted? Offcourse not so we have to treat everything with a pinch of salt.
We are in no position to condemn anyone except those whos guilt is beyond any reasonable doubt. Ussually culprit here is America and the Arab states... they always cause the trouble so even if Syria is at fault they are the reasons why Syrians are virtually fighting this civil war. The instability is a factor almost entirely due to foreign interference.
Thanks i will do the same as well, some of my family members have actually filmed some of the attacks occuring on their mobiles and told us about it that is why i am so certain. Its true its hard to tell but its happening so their must be a cause. I have given you an article from aljeezera in the previous post . Also can you explain to me why the arab states are to blame?
But to be honest our discussing wont achieve anything in the end :( and i doubt either of us will change our ideas.
Arab states especially Saudi Arabia are the biggest contributors to threats for other nations. They introduced the ultra radical Islamist Ideologies even bfore Iran. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states contributed to allowing the US regional bases and assets that threaten countries like Iran and Syria who are the only regional powers that have any significant threat for Isreal. Jordan is bordered with Syria but its like a sponge and the borders are infiltrated on both sides.
Arab states are the ones who spend billions on forieng weaponry wheras Iran has so many arms embargos as does Syria. Arab states use thier weapons to supress thier own people and they have just as much non democratic regimes as the countries they oppose.
Also the Arab states are the ones who have power to stop violence in the region through dialogue and yet they are the first to suggest physical actions like embargoes and threats tantamount to war.
Iran is hardly a good guy in theway it treats its own people and others and to an extent yes they do support rebels in other states but they dont directly invade other states the way Saudi arabia has done in Yemen and Bahrain.
The Arabs must learn to live and let live among themselves, rather than always relying on American arms and political power to solve things in the region. The Americans just want oil and to protect Isreal. Arabs are too busy bickering among themselves to sort themselves out or to put Isreal in its place.
Arab states especially Saudi Arabia are the biggest contributors to threats for other nations. They introduced the ultra radical Islamist Ideologies even bfore Iran. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states contributed to allowing the US regional bases and assets that threaten countries like Iran and Syria who are the only regional powers that have any significant threat for Isreal. Jordan is bordered with Syria but its like a sponge and the borders are infiltrated on both sides.
Arab states are the ones who spend billions on forieng weaponry wheras Iran has so many arms embargos as does Syria. Arab states use thier weapons to supress thier own people and they have just as much non democratic regimes as the countries they oppose.
Also the Arab states are the ones who have power to stop violence in the region through dialogue and yet they are the first to suggest physical actions like embargoes and threats tantamount to war.
Iran is hardly a good guy in theway it treats its own people and others and to an extent yes they do support rebels in other states but they dont directly invade other states the way Saudi arabia has done in Yemen and Bahrain.
The Arabs must learn to live and let live among themselves, rather than always relying on American arms and political power to solve things in the region. The Americans just want oil and to protect Isreal. Arabs are too busy bickering among themselves to sort themselves out or to put Isreal in its place.
Yeah my parents visited saudi last year and apparently alot of people oppose the strictness of the government such as not letting women drive etc. but they say as long as there comfortable its ok, since the saudi government is very generous to its people. However 90% of arabs in arab countries dont like their government but its hard for them to over throw it just like what you see is happening in syria some are scared the same will hapen to them. But to be fair its not the peoples fault their government is so bad its just their luck. I hope inshallah the future better leaders will be in charge of arab countries especially since the countries have soo much potential to be good and also lead a good example of muslims.
Saudi wants to take over bahrain as their are many iranians there who will probably soon cause trouble but if it combines this population of iranians will be watered down and will have less impact. It is trying to protect the arab populations of people and prevent syria happening their.
That is what exactly they r doing by protecting each others.
Allah damn these Iranian and Americans, whenever the bullion and oil prices go down, they start this war of words and continue till the price go to new heights....
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The only reason America is after Iran, is Iran's rhetoric against Israel. Iran government likes to constantly abuse America and Israel.
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Yes and would this be the downall of their power.
Iran continues to build their nuclear programme, Israel attackes Iran, Iran retaliates, the US move in to protect Israel and cause regime change in Tehran or carpet bomb the nation ensuring Iran poses no danger to Israel for years to come. The Arab states publicly may criticize the "war" but privately will be glad to see Iran eradicated. This will complete the domination of America in the Middle East for many decades to come.
Shia and Iranians are two different things.